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Xiaou2:
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--- Quote --- wouldn't try grinding the plastic handle of the joystick.  The material is a thermoplastic, which would probably become gummy when friction starts to heat it up.
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 I agree.  Tried it long ago, got all melty.. and the texture left behind wasnt pretty at all.  Sanding didnt seem to help much either.


--- Quote ---Realistically, without detents, there's no real benefit to the octagon shape.  The suggestion of a soft rubber grip of some nature, would work to address the OP's issues, simply and effectively.
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 Actually, AFAIK, the Happs mechanical rotary does in fact have detents.  (snaps into position)


--- Quote ---X2 is a junky getting his fix in this kind of circumstance.
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 Uhh.. You mean to say, that giving people good advice, and steering them clear of nonsense is bad?   I think you need to reconsider your position, and adjust your attitude to suit.
RandyT:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on June 11, 2012, 08:05:17 pm ---Actually, AFAIK, the Happs mechanical rotary does in fact have detents.  (snaps into position)

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Yes, it does.  I was referring to the optical version, which doesn't.  Either way, the octagon shape won't address the "comfort" issue, and may in fact make it worse.  So I still think the OP will be happiest with the addition of a soft rubber grip, regardless of the version used. 
Xiaou2:

--- Quote ---Yes, it does.  I was referring to the optical version, which doesn't.  Either way, the octagon shape won't address the "comfort" issue, and may in fact make it worse.  So I still think the OP will be happiest with the addition of a soft rubber grip, regardless of the version used. 
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 Ahh, i see.

 However, Im not so certain about the grip issue.  The octagon shape gives your fingers and or hand some leverage points.  Where as a round stick has nothing to purchase on... which causes you to slip... which means you have to grip the thing with much more strength, which causes fast fatigue.  Most screwdrivers have some angular configurations for the similar reasons.

 A combination of hard angles, and a semi-soft exterior, might be the best solution.
Maybe some sort of rubber sleeve...  Maybe one can use the exterior of a screwdriver / nut driver, as an option.

RandyT:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on June 12, 2012, 12:42:51 pm --- However, Im not so certain about the grip issue.  The octagon shape gives your fingers and or hand some leverage points.  Where as a round stick has nothing to purchase on... which causes you to slip... which means you have to grip the thing with much more strength, which causes fast fatigue.  Most screwdrivers have some angular configurations for the similar reasons.

A combination of hard angles, and a semi-soft exterior, might be the best solution.

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A soft rubber grip will increase the friction between your fingers and the handle, so it may end up as a wash.  Screwdriver handles typically are expected to provide more grip than would be expected to turn a switch.   But I agree that a combination of the two would probably be the best solution, albeit a bit more complex to make a reality.
Xiaou2:
I think another factor to consider, is how you play these games.

 I think the LS-30s are held more from the top.  This makes it easier to turn the stick fully in any direction, without adjusting your wrists so often... as well as better maintaining directional control in the process.

 I know one things for sure... I HATE that the happs rotaries are built off the Super joystick. The super's have those leaf-based microswitches, which get warped easily... and they are also very stiff and fatiguing.  Lot of resistance to that stick... and IMO, poor diagonals.

 The LS-30s are interesting, in that they are very close (identical? Ive never opened mine up that far to check)  in design to the modern Japanese joysticks.  Shallow depth, very light and springy.. easy to move.

 The smaller diameter shaft might also make turning the rotary easier too.






 Hmm... the more I think about this... When I ever do eventually get back to making things, I will probably Butcher my Happ Optical Rotaries, and make the parts work with the Happ Comps.  A far superior stick, which can be used decently well for almost anything.
 
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