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walterg74:
--- Quote from: Steven kurylec on September 09, 2012, 04:11:20 am ---Hi im new to the forum and am really enjoying your project so far! Do it for that noobs haha, i started my forst project a couple of weeks ago so all the questions your asking are really helping me out! (y)
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Thanks, I am glad you enjoy it and hope it's useful for when you do yours!
walterg74:
Ok, so I just finished the forst coat of primer and letting it dry as I write this...
Didn't go as nice as I wished though, seems I need more experience with the can...
Can't seem to get a nice even coverage without etting some drips, and also if I spray too close of course it drips, and if I go too far it seems that I'm just wasting the whole thing to the air :angry:
Any tips????
Ond:
--- Quote from: walterg74 on September 09, 2012, 04:54:07 pm ---Ok, so I just finished the forst coat of primer and letting it dry as I write this...
Didn't go as nice as I wished though, seems I need more experience with the can...
Can't seem to get a nice even coverage without etting some drips, and also if I spray too close of course it drips, and if I go too far it seems that I'm just wasting the whole thing to the air :angry:
Any tips????
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Just a few things, to start with, make sure the surface you’re spraying is horizontal if possible, less drips due to gravity.
When starting out with a spray can, controlled bursts with fairly broad sweeping action works well. Try to stay at about 20cm from the surface. Hold the can at about a 45 degree angle to the work and sweep in about 30 cm arcs.
Spray in controlled on-off again spraying sweeps to build up the primer/paint (same rules apply to paint) to a smooth wet surface. Don't just hold the button down and spray and hope for the best. Control the paint and watch it build up. You should spray a few passes, wait a minute, and then repeat. A regular wipe of the spray nozzle with a rag between passes minimises splattering.
It's better to just cover the work with a few layers, let dry sand lightly and repeat, than go in really thick on a single coat which takes much longer to dry properly.
A lumpy first coat is no big deal, when dry, just sand it back ( I covered all this in the steps previously posted BTW) to a smooth finish. On flat surfaces use a sanding block to get a really flat finish or a mechanical sander.
200 Grit is a bit coarse, 350 would be better and give you more control over how much you strip back off. Like I've said before, I work with 600 between layers of primer, that’s regardless of the final finish matt/satin/gloss you are trying to achieve.
With experience with the particular brand of spray can you are using, (they all vary with flow rate and spray quality) you can spray with longer controlled bursts and get a nice even result. In general cheaper paints tend to apply more coarsely and splattery than quality paints which cost a bit more. My point being, starting out with quality spray paint at least gives you more predictable, quality consistent results, which helps when learning.
walterg74:
--- Quote from: Ond on September 09, 2012, 08:54:27 pm ---Just a few things, to start with, make sure the surface you’re spraying is horizontal if possible, less drips due to gravity.
When starting out with a spray can, controlled bursts with fairly broad sweeping action works well. Try to stay at about 20cm from the surface. Hold the can at about a 45 degree angle to the work and sweep in about 30 cm arcs.
Spray in controlled on-off again spraying sweeps to build up the primer/paint (same rules apply to paint) to a smooth wet surface. Don't just hold the button down and spray and hope for the best. Control the paint and watch it build up. You should spray a few passes, wait a minute, and then repeat. A regular wipe of the spray nozzle with a rag between passes minimises splattering.
It's better to just cover the work with a few layers, let dry sand lightly and repeat, than go in really thick on a single coat which takes much longer to dry properly.
A lumpy first coat is no big deal, when dry, just sand it back ( I covered all this in the steps previously posted BTW) to a smooth finish. On flat surfaces use a sanding block to get a really flat finish or a mechanical sander.
200 Grit is a bit coarse, 350 would be better and give you more control over how much you strip back off. Like I've said before, I work with 600 between layers of primer, that’s regardless of the final finish matt/satin/gloss you are trying to achieve.
With experience with the particular brand of spray can you are using, (they all vary with flow rate and spray quality) you can spray with longer controlled bursts and get a nice even result. In general cheaper paints tend to apply more coarsely and splattery than quality paints which cost a bit more. My point being, starting out with quality spray paint at least gives you more predictable, quality consistent results, which helps when learning.
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Ok, so I started sanding that coat, using a 400 then, and left it pretty smooth.
I then started to put on the second coat, and I wanted to follow your advice on horizontal surfaces, so I just did the CP, the back panel, and one of the sides and the opposite inside of the cabinet laying it on the side.
This is more time consuming as I now have to wait for it to dry (although it's fast drying paint) and then turn it to do the other side, to finally in a third step do the top and other miscellaneous...
But I guess that will give me a better finish, do you agree? Do you do something like that, or do you use a different method for getting your paint evenly spread and with no dripping or the least possible?
One thing though I of course ran out of paint... One can is not enough.... So I have to go in a little while to get another to complete the priming.
Now this is not so bad, but it's a small cab... When I do the big one, there's no way I can use spray cans or I'll go broke.... So roller or brush? Pros/cons? Won't the brush leave traces of the bristles?
Ok, I'll write later today when I finish priming and with a few pics if possible.
L8r!! :cheers:
walterg74:
Ok, posting back... ;D
So went to buy the second can of primer, and just applied it.
This is what the cab looked like after applying the 1st primer coat:
After that I sanded with a 600 grit paper, and then today I just applied the second coat.
This is the cab just primed for the second time and drying:
Here are some pics of the CP also primed twice (lighting's not very good):
This is the first time I do this, so of course it's not perfect, and a drip-drip here, a drip-drip there, but nothing that can't be polished up as we go along with coats I guess, plus the fact I know it won't turn out perfect for my first time, so I'm just trying to do it the best I can, hoping to improve each time.
Regarding the paint, I decided to go along and buy spray cans for this small cab too.
I was about to buy a Krylon can that said "for mdf/melamine", but the store guy said they're the same paint just branded different, so saving 3 bucks (same brand though), and I got this:
The sticker means "semi-gloss". I decided for this since I thought matte was too dull, and glossy was just to bright for my taste, proner to fingerprints, etc...
We'll see how it turns out...
I also learned that hear I'm better off not buying at our local "home depot", since the paint that was $50 (almost $10 us dollars) was $35 (about $7 us dollars) at my friendly neighbourhood paint shop.... Don't know if it's the same in the US regarding stores, but I-d say a 30% difference is worth considering...
Anyway, appreciate any feedback/input, and I guess my next pics will be of the first coat of paint...
:cheers:
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