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BadMouth:


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--- Quote from: BadMouth on November 14, 2013, 09:36:59 am ---While I'm still in the Mala camp, a lack of updates for 7z support and a change in joystick reporting in mame.xml has me worried about the future.
I wish Loadman and Swindus would turn over the reigns to someone who has the free time and motivation to make improvements.

When I think about what I would want from a new front-end, it would basically be Mala with:
> improved transparency
> ability to manipulate images; have them angled, angled at a perspective, etc.
> special effects on gamelist text; outiline, shadow, etc.  Not sure how possible that is on the fly.
> the ability to post command lines based on any metadata (right now could be done with plugins based on any info stored in the gamelist)
   I guess to keep it quick, maybe the ability to choose what metadata gets copied to the gamelist would be nice.
> the ability to have arcade games in one list regardless of emulator (I'm currently doing this using SGT's workaround)

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Hyperspin + HyperLaunch 3

Since the MAME ROM set has every game, just doesn't play them all, use the backend to tell it to use a different emulator for specific games.  Totally transparent to the front end. 

Hyperspin is extrememly easy to setup once you break it down into the different pieces and understand how they interact. 

And I've offered to help people setup Hyperspin a number of times.  The tutorials over on Hyperspin-FE.com are getting better - but they're not written to a non-techy perspective.  I should write one myself...  maybe someday....

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Doesn't that require xml editing and manually making changes in hyperlaunch?
I'm already doing that in Mala and it works fine. 
Plus Mala uses the metadata from mame.xml for things like automatic monitor rotation and joystick switching, so all that stuff automatically works when games that run on other emulators are added to the mame list.  It also automatically loads different layouts depending on which way my monitor is currently oriented.

The above was a wish for a front-end that was designed to work that way from the beginning.
It would requiring nothing more than me right clicking on a game and selecting an option to add it to my main MAME list. 

I may  try hyperspin again on the new driving cab setup because there's no automation and it has a much shorter gamelist.
All the arcade games need to be in one list regardless of emulator, and all my pc games and console games need to be on separate lists.
As far as I know, it's possible using the same type of manual xml editing and sorting techniques to do it in Mala.
If not, stop me now so I don't waste my time.  (or just give me copies of your driving cab files after setting it up that way ;)  )

thatpurplestuff:

As cool as MaLa is (and as someone that owns a Maximus Arcade license), put me down as someone that prefers Hyperspin to both of them... I love the animated themes and I'm probably weird but if you've got things configured correctly it makes it fun to just browse through games before loading one up.  The new Hyperlaunch HQ makes tweaking settings a breeze, and new features like Hyperpause give the ability to pause emulators with a single button and display cool artwork, special moves lists, manuals/guides, videos, etc.

I can definitely see how the default settings might be too flashy and a turnoff for some people, but Hyperspin really does give a lot of power to the end user to adjust things to their liking and make things as simple or as complicated as they want.

Fursphere:


--- Quote from: BadMouth on November 14, 2013, 11:17:13 am ---Doesn't that require xml editing and manually making changes in hyperlaunch?
I'm already doing that in Mala and it works fine. 
Plus Mala uses the metadata from mame.xml for things like automatic monitor rotation and joystick switching, so all that stuff automatically works when games that run on other emulators are added to the mame list.  It also automatically loads different layouts depending on which way my monitor is currently oriented.

The above was a wish for a front-end that was designed to work that way from the beginning.
It would requiring nothing more than me right clicking on a game and selecting an option to add it to my main MAME list. 

I may  try hyperspin again on the new driving cab setup because there's no automation and it has a much shorter gamelist.
All the arcade games need to be in one list regardless of emulator, and all my pc games and console games need to be on separate lists.
As far as I know, it's possible using the same type of manual xml editing and sorting techniques to do it in Mala.
If not, stop me now so I don't waste my time.  (or just give me copies of your driving cab files after setting it up that way ;)  )

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So...  think of it this way.

Hyperspin - Graphic Front end and Game Database

Hyperlaunch - emulator launching "middleware"

you DO NOT configure emulators in HyperHQ (hyperspin) anymore.  Just the artwork, videos, and game database.   

In Hyperlaunch (3) - you configure the emulator to run the Hyperspin Database (XML) games for any given system.   You also globally configure emulators here.   That doesn't mean ROMs, just emulators.

So this emulator is here (c:\emulator)

Then for the Hyperspin WHEEL (game database!) you say the ROMs (games) are HERE c:\games (whatever you want to call it)

Then you "globally" configure and emulator to be the default emulator for a specific Hyperspin WHEEL (again, game database!).  Hyperlaunch will read that XML and show it in HyperLaunchHQ.  If there is a specific game that doesn't run in MAME for example, but does in DEMUL - you right click on that game and tell it to use DEMUL instead.  (which you GLOBALLY configured already).

So in your Hyperspin MAME wheel for example - all games will launch with MAME.EXE _except_ the one(s) you told to use DEMUL.  (or whatever).   If you have some SNES game that only runs under SNES9X instead of ZSNES - you just right click on that game and "poof", it'll now launch with SNEX9X instead of ZSNES (assuming ZSNES is the default emulator you choose previously)

Hyperspin is a GAME DATABASE with a graphic front end once you move to Hyperlaunch.  Its a collection of games for a system (or systems, like MAME).   Hyperlaunch tells it what emulator to use.

No XML hacking. 

I can go on and on about this.  There are some youtube videos that sorta help - but there is some "assumed" Hyperspin knowledge required.  I can help fill the gaps. 

blackmoor:


--- Quote from: BadMouth on May 24, 2012, 05:50:53 pm ---It's just a matter of taste.  I tried Hyperspin and ended up doing everything I could to get it to not look and feel like Hyperspin.
I dislike the whole "wheel" concept, so I guess there wasn't much hope for me.  :lol

I don't like GameEx and the others that look and feel like media center software....because they look and feel like media center software, not like an arcade game.

I use MALA.  It's basically just a gamelist that you choose the font and color for, plus any other pictures, video, or info you want displayed for a game.
You decide what is displayed, where it is displayed and how big it is.
It looks as slick or basic as your background picture editing skills allow.  ;)
If you can draw what you want your front-end to look like in photoshop, you can make MALA look like it.
You can have different themes for different emulators if you want.

I have a very basic theme, but it's exactly what I want.
(the marquee, screenshot, & CP change with the highlighted game)


Driving cab one is more polished


I gotta start doing some different color schemes.......right after I finish the current red and black cab.  ;)


Go to the MALA forum and search for "theme" to see what people have come up with.

The biggest complaint most people have about it is that it can't display tranparent layers correctly, so for example, you can't display the video inside a circle with the edges of the video covered up.

With some work-arounds, it's possible to have all the arcade games show up in your MAME list, even if they use a different emulator.
It isn't easy, but well worth it IMO.

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SUPERB Mala layout! please say that a) it´s scalable for low res arcademonitor and b) you´re willing to share it!

As for this thread. been using hyperspin from the start. but latest version of it JUST DOES NOT WORK. So last night learned of MALA and read about it and had it running with all my emulators, showing mp4 videos and myself made basic layouts. all of this in 5 hours. It took 50 hours to make first hyperspin to work and it did NOT work with c64 emulator, and no intro videos in mp4 form.I was ready to give up.

Mala is perfect, I recommend it to everybody sincerely!

I would like that layout for mame. Others can be my basic layout, which is black screen with system name on top, 2/3 screen shoving picture/video of selected game and on the right side is game list and on bottom of it selectedgamenumber of total number of games. Took the black layout and modified it for my needs. But Mame would definitively deserve this layout!

EDIT

took a crappy video of my machine with mala. Latest mala developer version 1.82 and CCCP codec pack, with ffdshow mala keeps crashing.



BadMouth:


--- Quote from: blackmoor on January 17, 2014, 08:08:05 am ---SUPERB Mala layout! please say that a) it´s scalable for low res arcademonitor and b) you´re willing to share it!

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I've never been able to figure out how to get the layouts to scale; always just make them to match my resolution.
These are 1024x768 IIRC.
The first one and my console ones are available here:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134977.0.html

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