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pros/cons of dropping cable TV service
GameOver:
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--- Quote from: kahlid74 on April 12, 2012, 08:45:11 am ---Cable isn't actually that expensive when you don't do the HD/DVR boxes.
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I agree - i pay @40/mo. Just for my 3 set top boxes. Whats the alternative?
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I get over 50 channels over the air and have HD and a DVR for $0 per month..
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I get the ota antenna HD channels (only about 12 in my location). It seemed kahlid74 was implying he watched cable w/o paying for the set top boxes which for me adds $40 to my bill by itself (1 reg HD box, 2 HD dvr boxes). If i could drop the boxes somehow and still watch cable channels that would change the value proposition a bit!
@chrisk - sounds like you have a good deal! Right now i'm paying FIOS $165/mo for internet & tv. I'm considering switching to Comcast internet only for $40/mo. Plus either Netflix streaming ($9/mo) and/or Hulu Plus ($9/mo) so i'd be looking at $58/mo vs $165/mo and thats if i keep both netflix & hulu. So basically would save @100+/month or $1,200+/year. I could build 2 more cabs!
ChrisK:
Well, the $40-something I still pay for 3Mbps Internet is cheaper than yours, and the $110 I was paying total is lower, but the service is awful. The HD lineup is poor, the DVR was atrocious, and the service dropped out much more often than our DTV ever did, despite our frequent heavy rain and snow storms trying to fade our satellite signal. The Internet is even worse, with more than one outage a month on average, and spotty reliability overall. I'm about to pay $10/month more to switch to 5Mbps DSL, cause I'm really tired of Charter. If I could get a high-end Internet connection (>10Mbps) I'd probably pay for it.
There are OTA DVRs but at least when I was looking into that a year or so ago they weren't all that hot. You could get a Tivo, but then you have a monthly (or huge upfront) cost. You can get fee-free DVRs but their guide data and featureset tends to be worse than most DVRs and they're generally expensive up front. I could set up a PC with an antenna in but then I'm reliant upon PC DVR software.
Our compromise is an old Mac Mini in the living room plugged into our TV. It's not a powerful computer but it streams off Hulu and various TV sites just fine, and it's more than happy to pull my ripped DVDs over the network. On the rare occasion I need to watch something live (last was the Super Bowl) we use an antenna, and I go INSANE watching commercials. :)
Samstag:
Windows Media Center is a really good DVR if you've got a version of Windows that includes it. It's been a couple of years since I had a Tivo but WMC has all the features I remember, with no fees for the channel listings.
Green Giant:
--- Quote from: GameOver on April 12, 2012, 11:29:52 am ---
--- Quote from: Samstag on April 12, 2012, 10:48:20 am ---
--- Quote from: GameOver on April 12, 2012, 09:28:11 am ---
--- Quote from: kahlid74 on April 12, 2012, 08:45:11 am ---Cable isn't actually that expensive when you don't do the HD/DVR boxes.
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I agree - i pay @40/mo. Just for my 3 set top boxes. Whats the alternative?
--- End quote ---
I get over 50 channels over the air and have HD and a DVR for $0 per month..
--- End quote ---
I get the ota antenna HD channels (only about 12 in my location). It seemed kahlid74 was implying he watched cable w/o paying for the set top boxes which for me adds $40 to my bill by itself (1 reg HD box, 2 HD dvr boxes). If i could drop the boxes somehow and still watch cable channels that would change the value proposition a bit!
@chrisk - sounds like you have a good deal! Right now i'm paying FIOS $165/mo for internet & tv. I'm considering switching to Comcast internet only for $40/mo. Plus either Netflix streaming ($9/mo) and/or Hulu Plus ($9/mo) so i'd be looking at $58/mo vs $165/mo and thats if i keep both netflix & hulu. So basically would save @100+/month or $1,200+/year. I could build 2 more cabs!
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Another option is to build yourself a HTPC and utilize an InfiniTV. This little device fits in your PCI express slot and holds a cable card which you rent from your cable company. The rental price is free, although you have to really scream at comcast to get that price. They will try to rip you off. I hate those guys.
The thing is, the InfiniTV interfaces perfectly with Windows Media Center. It has 4 tuners built in which you can network to other computers with windows media center on your network. Right now I have a HTPC with an infinitv in my living room hooked up to a comcast cablecard. I have 3 tuners assigned to this tv allowing 3 different recordings at the same time. I assigned the fourth tuner to my other computer in my mancave. It pulls in HD and SD channels just fine.
Another nice thing is you can still watch the recorded shows on any computer you have that has windows media center. I am still working on the final tweaks to my whole system, but it is coming along very very nicely. I finally turned in my stupid HD/DVR box from comcast.
To give you an idea of my setup, right now on my living room PC I have:
- An infinitv reading a comcast cablecard providing 4 tuners.
- I pay for comcast prefered cable tv giving like 200 channels plus encore. I have a few digital adapters on other tvs just to get the basic 1-150 channels. They are free for 2 of them.
- 2 TB of movie storage all organized and cataloged with MediaCenterMaster. Viewed through media browser.
- Another TB of TV show storage to hold entire series of shows also organized and auto downloaded through MCM.
- About 500 GB to store any shows I record from the cablecard.
- A wireless network offering up all of the above movies, tv shows, and recorded tvs shows to any windows PC.
- Hulu desktop(free) which interfaces to open from Windows Media Center.
- Netflix which I still keep around cause of the shows and I can stream it on my cellphone.
And my mancave computer is actually a mineral oil PC that can stream everything including live tv from my main HTPC in the living room. The mineral oil is necessary, but it is fun having a computer in a fish tank filled with liquid.
I personally think my setup is the best of both worlds. You get HD cable channels for instant viewing which I need and my wife would kill me if I stopped. You get those HD channels at a far cheaper price than renting the TERRIBLE TERRIBLE comcast equipment. You also get all of the free streaming sites that work seamlessly with the cable tv through windows media center. I can also store and instantly watch TONS of **legally** acquired movies through a beautifully organized collection.
Green Giant:
--- Quote from: ChrisK on April 12, 2012, 11:59:47 am ---Well, the $40-something I still pay for 3Mbps Internet is cheaper than yours, and the $110 I was paying total is lower, but the service is awful. The HD lineup is poor, the DVR was atrocious, and the service dropped out much more often than our DTV ever did, despite our frequent heavy rain and snow storms trying to fade our satellite signal. The Internet is even worse, with more than one outage a month on average, and spotty reliability overall. I'm about to pay $10/month more to switch to 5Mbps DSL, cause I'm really tired of Charter. If I could get a high-end Internet connection (>10Mbps) I'd probably pay for it.
There are OTA DVRs but at least when I was looking into that a year or so ago they weren't all that hot. You could get a Tivo, but then you have a monthly (or huge upfront) cost. You can get fee-free DVRs but their guide data and featureset tends to be worse than most DVRs and they're generally expensive up front. I could set up a PC with an antenna in but then I'm reliant upon PC DVR software.
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Windows Media Center 7 is well.....amazing. The DVR features are the best I have ever seen anywhere. Completely destroys Tivo IMO. Through infinitv or I think silicondust, you can interface with a cablecard just like Tivo does, only it is free (the dvr not the cable).
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