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Hoopz:

--- Quote from: Vigo on March 27, 2012, 10:32:57 am ---In the Lord of the rings, the whole first book really resolves nothing. They realize they have to destroy the ring, create a fellowship to carry that out, and then the fellowship repeatedly gets busted to pieces and the book ends with the Sam and Frodo running off alone. It is totally an incomplete story by itself.

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WTF VIGO?  Ever hear of the spoiler tag?  DAMMIT!  Another book ruined.


































 :P

shmokes:

--- Quote from: Vigo on March 27, 2012, 10:32:57 am ---In the Lord of the rings, the whole first book really resolves nothing. They realize they have to destroy the ring, create a fellowship to carry that out, and then the fellowship repeatedly gets busted to pieces and the book ends with the Sam and Frodo running off alone. It is totally an incomplete story by itself.

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I dunno. It's been too long. I don't remember Fellowship of the Ring seeming incomplete. The Game of Thrones series, on the other hand, is awful. When I was about 4/5 through the book I was like, "WTF? If the author intends to wind up all these story lines he's opened, he better get moving." The the book just abruptly ended. I was pissed. It wasn't even a very good book and now, if I wanted to find out ANYTHING I had to get the next one. The book just ---smurfing--- stops. Absolutely nothing is resolved. But if Tolkien is guilty, he's guilty. It's bad writing, and commercially it basically amounts to bait-and-switch.

lordnacho:

--- Quote from: Vigo on March 26, 2012, 05:42:10 pm ---Shakey cam doesn't make me sick, but annoys the crap out of me. It is about the most overused filming technique out there too. It reminds me of those star trek scenes when the enterprise gets hit with a torpedo or something, but it just keeps going on and on and on...

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It's so much more apparent if you have it on mute.  Had sound off once for Diners, Drive-ins and Dives (cooking show), the filming is insanely annoying.  Quick zooming in on a guy throwing paprika into a pot.  I was getting nauseus and hungry at the same time.

Green Giant:

--- Quote from: Vigo on March 27, 2012, 10:32:57 am ---
--- Quote from: shmokes on March 26, 2012, 11:39:09 pm ---I haven't read the books, but my wife has, and from what she describes, they sound pretty poor. She also pointed out that they are a single book. It's such a ripoff when authors do this. I'm afraid Quentin Terantino invented the concept with Kill Bill (which sucks, cos I love that movie). Your ---smurfing--- work has to be complete. It has to be able to exist on its own. You can't just ---smurfing--- sell a 1/3 completed novel at retail. Except you apparently can now. Which sucks.

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Been thinking about this comment a bit. I know what you mean about Hollywood milking movies for every dollar and unnecessarily splitting things up, and this seems to be the case for the film. From what I read so far, I think that the series just seems like it could be rounded up into a single movie without screwing things up. The books simply are not plot-filled enough to need to preserve the complete unabridged story for the film.

I don't think that this is an issue with the books though. Each book is almost 400 pages, and they do find an ending point between books, even if it is a bit of a cliffhanger on the 2nd book. However, that is really nothing new to books at all. In the Lord of the rings, the whole first book really resolves nothing. They realize they have to destroy the ring, create a fellowship to carry that out, and then the fellowship repeatedly gets busted to pieces and the book ends with the Sam and Frodo running off alone. It is totally an incomplete story by itself.

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Having seen the movie, I have to disagree with that one.

Like I said, my knowledge of the books is what is posted on wikipedia, but the movie was very well done.  I really don't see how they could incorporate the remainder of what I read on wikipedia into a single movie without it seeming like Spiderman 3.

At no point in the movie was I getting annoyed and wanting them to speed it up.  It isn't like watching Drive, god what a crappy movie that was.  And actually they did a really good job of wrapping up the movie.  It could easily have ended and be done.  There are no holes left at the end of the movie you want answered.  If I didn't know there were 2 more movies I wouldn't have known they would be making several more movies in the series.

Mikezilla:

--- Quote from: Green Giant on March 27, 2012, 11:17:08 am ---
--- Quote from: Vigo on March 27, 2012, 10:32:57 am ---
--- Quote from: shmokes on March 26, 2012, 11:39:09 pm ---I haven't read the books, but my wife has, and from what she describes, they sound pretty poor. She also pointed out that they are a single book. It's such a ripoff when authors do this. I'm afraid Quentin Terantino invented the concept with Kill Bill (which sucks, cos I love that movie). Your ---smurfing--- work has to be complete. It has to be able to exist on its own. You can't just ---smurfing--- sell a 1/3 completed novel at retail. Except you apparently can now. Which sucks.

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Been thinking about this comment a bit. I know what you mean about Hollywood milking movies for every dollar and unnecessarily splitting things up, and this seems to be the case for the film. From what I read so far, I think that the series just seems like it could be rounded up into a single movie without screwing things up. The books simply are not plot-filled enough to need to preserve the complete unabridged story for the film.

I don't think that this is an issue with the books though. Each book is almost 400 pages, and they do find an ending point between books, even if it is a bit of a cliffhanger on the 2nd book. However, that is really nothing new to books at all. In the Lord of the rings, the whole first book really resolves nothing. They realize they have to destroy the ring, create a fellowship to carry that out, and then the fellowship repeatedly gets busted to pieces and the book ends with the Sam and Frodo running off alone. It is totally an incomplete story by itself.

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Having seen the movie, I have to disagree with that one.

Like I said, my knowledge of the books is what is posted on wikipedia, but the movie was very well done.  I really don't see how they could incorporate the remainder of what I read on wikipedia into a single movie without it seeming like Spiderman 3.

At no point in the movie was I getting annoyed and wanting them to speed it up.  It isn't like watching Drive, god what a crappy movie that was.  And actually they did a really good job of wrapping up the movie.  It could easily have ended and be done.  There are no holes left at the end of the movie you want answered.  If I didn't know there were 2 more movies I wouldn't have known they would be making several more movies in the series.

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I wish they would have done that with the Matrix, just left it at the first one and forget about the rest of the crap. I read all 3 books in 3 days and I found them pretty entertaining. It was predictable, but like Vigo said, I love a good dystopian novel. I enjoyed them, I was wondering how they were going to handle the killings and violence though, I hate stuff watered down. I also didnt agree with 90% of the casting. Woody Harrelson, and Lenny Kravitz were not who I was picturing in my head while reading the book. Same with Rue, and a bunch of the tributes. I think they got Katniss, and Gale down though. Peeta is a joke. The dude is a midget in real life. I cant get over it. The gf and I will probably check it out this weekend. Everyone, whether read the books or not, said it was a good movie.

I just hope I dont barf. I get neauseous if I sit in the back seat of a long car ride.  :puke

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