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shmokes:

It doesn't matter whether you're playing alone or with 50 million people. The point is, if you can't tell that the program is phoning home it's not intrusive. I'm using Draw Something as an example merely to illustrate how non-disruptive online communications are anymore.

shmokes:


--- Quote from: knave on May 02, 2012, 12:00:09 pm ---Draw something . . . seem(s) to want to integrate so much with all the social media crap. I don't want it all connected. So it bothers me to be forced to in order to play the game.

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I'm the same way. I have no apps installed on Facebook for this reason. There have been many times that I've clicked a link, thinking, "Oh, that sounds cool . . . I'd like to do that," only to be faced with the app installation page that says things like, "This app can post things to your friends' walls . . ." At which point I always click cancel. Why would I ever trust anyone, let alone some faceless corporation, to post things ostensibly from me onto my friends' wall?

When I first fired up Draw Something, I thought the same thing. However, upon closer inspection it became clear that this isn't necessary. You can connect with Facebook OR simply provide an email address. It can just be a throwaway email address that you'll never use, too. They just need some unique way to identify you. Beyond that you can connect with people either by being matched randomly or by typing in their usernames. No need to interface with Facebook.

Malenko:


--- Quote from: shmokes on May 02, 2012, 02:42:16 pm ---It doesn't matter whether you're playing alone or with 50 million people. The point is, if you can't tell that the program is phoning home it's not intrusive. I'm using Draw Something as an example merely to illustrate how non-disruptive online communications are anymore.

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You're missing my point. You're using an online only multi-player only game that cant be played solo as a reason that all games are ok to have an online check. Does not compute.

Diablo 3 having to check back home is more akin to not being able to play Super Mario World unless your XBand is online. I know they are doing to to prevent duping and the like because of the auction house, and like I said I'm ok with *THIS* game doing it, but that doesn't mean its ok for ALL games to do it.

knave:

I think for me the bottom line is that if Diablo 3 turns out to be Amazing! I will get it knowing that I'll have to only play it when I have an internet connection.

I don't play steam games offline a lot but I have done it. Sometimes there just isn't wifi available.  Which is too bad for me if I'm in one of those situations and want to play.

shmokes:


--- Quote from: Malenko on May 02, 2012, 04:57:13 pm ---
You're missing my point. You're using an online only multi-player only game that cant be played solo as a reason that all games are ok to have an online check. Does not compute.


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Jesus Christ on a stick, how many ways can I say this? I'm not missing your point. You're just hammering on a straw man. I used Draw Something as an illustration of how seemless and entirely invisible phoning home is these days. NOTHING MORE. I didn't say "Draw Something phones home and thus so should every other game be able to," or anything of the sort. I said that phoning home isn't typically intrusive. It's not. It's invisible. Completely.

You're wrong anyway. The fact that some game uses online communication for gameplay purposes doesn't somehow legitimize communications that are otherwise wrong. EA couldn't very well steal personal info from your computer on the grounds that you gave FIFA permission to play against online opponents. If online DRM checking is fundamentally wrong it is wrong regardless of whether you've given the company permission to comminicate online for other reasons.

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