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Best Diablo 3 Announcement reaction gifs ever...
shmokes:
I totally understand that. I get the principles. But what I mean is what are those principles worth to you? I mean, say Red Dead Redemption is your favorite game of all time, but the ease of piracy with the mass distribution of Bit Torrent combined with 100 Mbit broadband connections makes a game of that scale impossible to make and remain profitable? It seems to me that at one point the question isn't whether you want the company to be able to render your game useless by going out of business, but whether the pros outweigh the cons--whether the DRM, which admittedly is not ideal for the consumer, is still preferable to not having the game.
My point is, it seems to me that everyone is like, "No way!" because the DRM sucks, without considering the possibility that maybe it's actually better than the alternative. And maybe it's not better. But the people who are just standing on an absolute principle don't seem to even be considering the possibility.
Samstag:
--- Quote from: shmokes on April 28, 2012, 12:49:23 pm ---I totally understand that. I get the principles. But what I mean is what are those principles worth to you? I mean, say Red Dead Redemption is your favorite game of all time, but the ease of piracy with the mass distribution of Bit Torrent combined with 100 Mbit broadband connections makes a game of that scale impossible to make and remain profitable? It seems to me that at one point the question isn't whether you want the company to be able to render your game useless by going out of business, but whether the pros outweigh the cons--whether the DRM, which admittedly is not ideal for the consumer, is still preferable to not having the game.
My point is, it seems to me that everyone is like, "No way!" because the DRM sucks, without considering the possibility that maybe it's actually better than the alternative. And maybe it's not better. But the people who are just standing on an absolute principle don't seem to even be considering the possibility.
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The alternative to the intrusive DRM is a pig pile of quality games that keep the DRM within reason. I don't buy any Ubisoft games since they started the always-on DRM crap for single-player games and while I'm missing out on some great Assassin's Creed games, there are plenty of great games available from publishers I'm willing to give my cash.
I bought RDR twice (PS3 and 360) even though I have the ability to pirate it on both platforms. I'm willing to pay for quality and I'm willing to pass up a good game if it has unacceptable DRM.
Speaking of awesome alternatives, Syndicate is on sale for $3 right now at gog.com.
shmokes:
But how intrusive is it, really? I mean, five years ago yeah, and maybe for a small subset of the population. But, like, I play Draw Something on a near daily basis and the fact that I need to have an active internet connection is entirely transparent. I don't even think about it. I mean, really, anymore is actively checking for anti-piracy any more intrusive than if you make a service call to a plumber and before they send someone out they make sure you don't have an unpaid balance with them? Cos in principle it seem like that's essentially what's happening. Before you play the game the creator is making sure that you purchased the game. And the process for almost everyone is 100% transparent. You don't see it happen. Your internet is always on and the amount of bandwidth the antipiracy check uses is negligible.
It's not intrusive. I mean, if you didn't know it was happening you wouldn't even know it was happening. I think It's offending other sensibilities, for the most part.
Samstag:
Draw Something is a multiplayer game and one you don't even need to pay for. You can't play it without an internet connection, so if they want to authenticate every session of your free game I wouldn't have any problem with that.
Intrusive is putting mandatory authentication in my single-player game so I can't play it when I'm on the road or years later when the company shuts down their servers.
I just found my missing disc from Grim Fandango so I can finally play it again. I'd be pretty pissed if I couldn't because the authentication servers were gone.
Malenko:
Anyone who is ok with always on line internet connectivity as DRM doesnt have comcast as an ISP