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Trip:

--- Quote from: Peja on March 12, 2012, 05:29:23 pm ---Not trying to hijack this thread but my dilema before I build my CP is whether or not to add 6 buttons on the P3 and P4 as well.  I am not sure if the OP is planning on running any other emulators besides MAME such as Dreamcast down the line like I am but it may be nice to be future proof. 

4 player DC games can be fun(on a CP, not with breakout controlers).....games such as Powerstone 2, Blitz, Jams, Virtua Tennis.  I am not sure how many buttons these games use however.  May have to dig around and find a manual.

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I can add the full 7 buttons to both 3/4, doesn't bother me to do it.  I just didn't know if it was really necessary.  I don't see people wanting to play the console games as much as the classic arcade games on this, which is what I am building it for anyway.  We have 1/2 for console games if needed.  I could put em on there and just have them there anyway though...

Was just debating freeing up a little space to do straight up instead of angled positions.
Peja:
I hear ya man......its always nice to try and incorporate everything but its also nice to have a clean layout without craming too much on there.

Good Luck!!
rCadeGaming:

--- Quote from: Hoopz on March 12, 2012, 05:04:51 pm ---Seriously, I think there are just TWO games that use 4 buttons for players 3 and 4.  If you aren't going to play those with 4 total people on your machine, I wouldn't waste the time, space or money on putting those extra buttons in.

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You mean in MAME?  Could you tell me which two games?


--- Quote from: Peja on March 12, 2012, 05:29:23 pm ---4 player DC games can be fun(on a CP, not with breakout controlers).....games such as Powerstone 2, Blitz, Jams, Virtua Tennis.  I am not sure how many buttons these games use however.  May have to dig around and find a manual.

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Powerstone 2 - 3 button
Blitz - 4 button
Virtua Tennis - 2 button (for player 3 and 4 at least)

Not sure what "Jams" is.  Sports Jam is 2 buttons.  NBA Jam is 3 buttons but didn't come out for Dreamcast.

It's not looking like you ever need more than 4 buttons on 3 and 4.


--- Quote from: Peja on March 12, 2012, 05:29:23 pm ---I am not sure if the OP is planning on running any other emulators besides MAME such as Dreamcast down the line like I am but it may be nice to be future proof. 

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Dreamcast emulation isn't nearly as good as most MAME games.  Given the low cost of Dreamcast hardware now, why not use the real console?  It's especially easy to add, since it can output VGA.  The games are pretty cheap, but you can easily burn ISO's of them if you want to.

If you're concerned about flexibility and being future proof, you should look into a more versatile controller board, like the MC Cthulhu.  I don't know why these aren't talked about more here; they're lag and ghosting free, they work for almost every major video game console as well as PC, and they're firmware updateable for future consoles.  You need one for each player, but at only $35 each it's not too much extra considering that it adds support for a dozen consoles.
Trip:
No one knows where to get concave RGB or single color LED pushbuttons?

Also, anyone know where Mameroom sources their RGB joysticks?
Hoopz:

--- Quote from: rCadeGaming on March 12, 2012, 07:18:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: Hoopz on March 12, 2012, 05:04:51 pm ---Seriously, I think there are just TWO games that use 4 buttons for players 3 and 4.  If you aren't going to play those with 4 total people on your machine, I wouldn't waste the time, space or money on putting those extra buttons in.

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You mean in MAME?  Could you tell me which two games?

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Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara
Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom

Since MAWS is down, it's not easy to search for roms that use four buttons per player.  Romlister can show it but I don't have it on this PC (or roms).

As far as I know, and it's been discussed here for years, those are the only ones that use 4 buttons for P3 & P4.  Even if there are a few more, I doubt it warrants having the extra button.  YMMV.
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