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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #520 on: September 15, 2016, 03:21:09 am »
Router an angle down the long edge to get it close.  Fill any gaps and sand to perfection.
Thanks, and what's the best way to do that? Do I need to get me another angled bit??

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #521 on: September 17, 2016, 05:43:05 am »
Does it make a difference which side i put the screws in from for the supports? Realise ive done them form the inside, but instructions say from outside... its all pretty stable but wondered if there was a reason and if i should drive some in from the other side too...?

edit... also, how are people holding the monitor in place? i have braces for positioning, but how do you hold? i was wondering about straps?
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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #522 on: September 20, 2016, 09:01:11 am »
It will make a difference in how much filling and sanding you need to do, but as long as there's a good connection between the pieces you should be fine.

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« Reply #523 on: September 20, 2016, 09:04:07 am »
It will make a difference in how much filling and sanding you need to do, but as long as there's a good connection between the pieces you should be fine.

Cool thanks - that's why i whacked them in from the inside out of instinct (to reduce the filling)

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #524 on: September 21, 2016, 10:47:07 am »
I've hit a bit of a conundrum. I'm pretty certain all my measurements have been good, but I seem to have something wrong. See the pic below

The bezel isn't yet fixed in place, but the angle needs to be a bit greater to line up with the sides. This is fine, but need to cut a chunk out of my back braces to get it to go back far enough.
BUT even now, and exaggerated when I put it back a bit, the marquee bottom piece is far too short to connect the top of the bezel to where the front of it needs to be in order for it to be straight. Any thoughts?
Also, the marquee top piece doesn't seem to have room to fit in (and I'm not sure of the purpose of it since I already have a piece which can hold the marquee...)

Any thoughts/advice appreciated!

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #525 on: September 21, 2016, 11:22:05 am »
Looking at a pic of mine, i can't help but feel there is a dimensional difference in one of your parts from mine.

Obviously easier to make a new marquee bottom piece for your speakers to sit on than a bezel, make the braces smaller to correct the angle, test the angles as required before locking it all in place and you'll be gtg.


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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #526 on: September 21, 2016, 11:49:11 am »
Yeah - def a dimension difference, but nothing major i dont think... i've widened substantially to fit a 27" monitor in, but otherwise everything should be the same as on the plans.
Only other thing i can think is that maybe i've somehow removed a bit too much from the rounded edges... don't see how it's possible tho as I triple measured everything!!

As you say - larger marquee bottom seems to make most sense - I'm happy with the bezel itself. And i dont mind a slightly less vertical angle on the monitor (in fact, i think i prefer it a bit)... only thing is that the Marquee top piece will be a massive slab... wonder if i might try and add in a second piece just to make the angles more friendly...

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #527 on: September 21, 2016, 01:21:15 pm »
That's looking like you've got some measurements wrong somewhere, bud. There's angles out somewhere. Mine, for comparison:



Nice mantelpiece btw.
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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #528 on: September 21, 2016, 01:55:19 pm »
Yeah, looking at those both above, seems my bottom angle is to steep... Ah well, not changing it now!! Will have to work within the constraints i have and have a slightly flatter screen...
Just need to decide whether to cut a larger piece for the marquee bottom or add in a piece....

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #529 on: September 21, 2016, 04:03:19 pm »
So that I get this right, can anyone tell me about the plexi they are using on their bezel? I haven't yet decided whether to use 1 sheet (tinted) or two (clear on top) with some artwork between... How thick sheets of plexi do I need in each setup? Want to make sure that, since I'm playing off book somewhat now, that I have enough space for each option!!

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #530 on: September 22, 2016, 02:06:16 pm »
I still haven't put the plexi on mine, but i'm going to go with 3mm, ~1/8 inch tinted plexi.

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #531 on: September 22, 2016, 02:25:24 pm »
I still haven't put the plexi on mine, but i'm going to go with 3mm, ~1/8 inch tinted plexi.
Thanks. is that fairly standard? Presumably if you sandwich artwork it would be twice that?
Also, out of interest, what tint level?

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #532 on: September 22, 2016, 02:32:35 pm »
 
Also, out of interest, what tint level?

I spent a while on this question. Lots of talk about graylight. Eventually, I settled for a 36% tint (lets out 36% of the light). Dunno where you are, but only place you can get it in the UK:

https://plasticonline.co.uk/


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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #533 on: September 22, 2016, 02:37:15 pm »
Also, out of interest, what tint level?

I spent a while on this question. Lots of talk about graylight. Eventually, I settled for a 36% tint (lets out 36% of the light). Dunno where you are, but only place you can get it in the UK:

https://plasticonline.co.uk/
Thanks mate (I'm in the UK too). You're happy with the 36% then?

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #534 on: September 22, 2016, 04:01:56 pm »
Well, tbh, I haven't put it on yet. However, I got two other samples either side (commonly in the uk they're "light tint" and "dark tint"). I can't remember the light indexes on these, but dark lets less light through than the 36% and was TOO dark. The light was too light (and let more light through than the 36%). So I'm pretty confident the 36% will be fine.

I think I just made that WAAY more complicated than it needed to be.

Greta value too - came well packaged + plexi in good nick. Can't remember how much the bezel plexi was, but wasn't much. Maybe ask them for samples?

Also - don't forget to get your marquee plexi whilst you're at it.
I went for 5mm on my bezel plexi. Also get some Vuplex and a good microfibre - polishes the plexi quick and effectively.

Great to have another Uk builder! :)

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« Reply #535 on: September 22, 2016, 04:09:19 pm »
Well, tbh, I haven't put it on yet. However, I got two other samples either side (commonly in the uk they're "light tint" and "dark tint"). I can't remember the light indexes on these, but dark lets less light through than the 36% and was TOO dark. The light was too light (and let more light through than the 36%). So I'm pretty confident the 36% will be fine.

I think I just made that WAAY more complicated than it needed to be.

Greta value too - came well packaged + plexi in good nick. Can't remember how much the bezel plexi was, but wasn't much. Maybe ask them for samples?

Also - don't forget to get your marquee plexi whilst you're at it.
I went for 5mm on my bezel plexi. Also get some Vuplex and a good microfibre - polishes the plexi quick and effectively.

Great to have another Uk builder! :)
Thanks - was this the one you went for?
https://plasticonline.co.uk/acrylic-sheet/acrylic-sheets/colour-gloss-surface-finish/transparent-tint-gloss/mid-grey-tint-cast-acrylic-sheet.html

Good shout on the marquee - did you go same thickness there too? 2 pieces?

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #536 on: September 23, 2016, 02:56:54 am »
 Thimk so but do  check with them. My mayquee is slightly different in that I have a dynamic display, bur I went for the 3mm to protect the screen. Youd be best with two sheets of  3mm id suggest.

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #537 on: September 27, 2016, 09:33:50 am »
What's the general consensus on how to hold the marquee and plexi in place at the top? Just wondering if this might affect how i re-do my marquee piece...

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #538 on: October 05, 2016, 09:04:34 pm »
Hello,
Can anyone point me to where a hi-res version of the plan is? All I can find is the image in Reply #61. It has the dimensions, but the image is blurry. I see a reference to a PDF, but haven't found that either.

Thanks!
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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #539 on: October 06, 2016, 04:15:18 am »
Hello,
Can anyone point me to where a hi-res version of the plan is? All I can find is the image in Reply #61. It has the dimensions, but the image is blurry. I see a reference to a PDF, but haven't found that either.

Thanks!
Justin

Here's a folder of what i collected. Anything in cm is not an original plan but my update based upon it. Use with a pinch of salt as something went wrong in my using them resulting in a little less space than others seem to have. Nothing that can't be compensated for with a little more wood (and time) however!

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AoSIS8JMp7e7pdNjAnZ1CZpIdJse5A

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #540 on: October 06, 2016, 03:48:23 pm »
Thanks vaderag!

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #541 on: October 12, 2016, 03:33:03 pm »
Also, out of interest, what tint level?

I spent a while on this question. Lots of talk about graylight. Eventually, I settled for a 36% tint (lets out 36% of the light). Dunno where you are, but only place you can get it in the UK:

https://plasticonline.co.uk/

So i contacted those guys about tint level and got:
3mm Light Grey Tint 901 @ 61%
5mm Light Grey Tint 901 @ 44%
3mm, 5mm and 8mm Mid Grey Tint 9T20 @ 44%
3mm Dark Grey (Black) Tint @ 14%
5mm Dark Grey (Black) Tint @ 4%

Sooo... no 36% lol

I'm thinking of going for the 5mm Mid Grey...

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #542 on: October 12, 2016, 07:02:21 pm »
Just a quick note, I will no longer be supporting this project - too busy with other stuff. Good luck to thos building, so long and thanks for all the fish!  Ond.

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #543 on: October 12, 2016, 07:56:20 pm »
Thanks for the plans and good luck with your future endeavours. Sorry I still haven't finished mine after 3 years of build start >.< Terrible idea to start writing software...

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« Reply #544 on: October 13, 2016, 01:52:05 am »
Just a quick note, I will no longer be supporting this project - too busy with other stuff. Good luck to thos building, so long and thanks for all the fish!  Ond.
Thanks for everything you have done here OND. Genuinely wouldn't be so far along (or perhaps even have started) without your plans

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« Reply #545 on: October 14, 2016, 05:26:30 pm »
Just a quick note, I will no longer be supporting this project - too busy with other stuff. Good luck to thos building, so long and thanks for all the fish!  Ond.


A huge thanks for what you've done. I couldn't have built my cab (or the copies thereafter) without your amazing tutorial!

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #546 on: November 02, 2016, 07:46:04 am »
Random question... has anyone rounded the bottom corners (the ones 'against' the ground?)

Just looking at mine and some of the moving around has obviously caught them a bit. It's not an issue right now, but thinking when i get my artwork stuck on that might eventually lead to peeling etc... thoughts? Anyone got a solution to this potential problem? Thinking that by slightly rounding i might be able to put T moulding all the way around to catch the 'dings' (not that i'll be planning on moving it much)

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #547 on: November 02, 2016, 03:38:53 pm »
thas a good idea.

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #548 on: November 03, 2016, 05:42:20 am »
So how much of a curve can you safely give to t-moulding? I want it to be as small as possible...
Also, worried it might look odd against the right angles of the front panel...

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« Reply #549 on: November 08, 2016, 05:17:38 am »
I did the curve. Seems to work well

How have you guys filled the little gaps between the straight wood pieces?
I've used P38 (bit like bondo) for covering the screws, but still have some light coming thorough (small amount) round the bezel piece etc... I feel bondo from the front is just going to get messy and fail, it might be so little that the primer will fill it... Just trying to get some thoughts from you guys!!

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« Reply #550 on: November 14, 2016, 05:01:00 pm »
Made some really good progress at the weekend, feel like I'm on the downwards slope now!
What I'm really interested to hear now is how people attached the control panel so that it's firm yet accessible.

I have thought through a few different options but they all seem to have problems with accessibility or potential firmness in use! Would like to hear from someone who's done it!!

(Point of note for mine, i need front and top joined as it'll be one piece of vinyl going round the curve. Otherwise I'm per plans!)

Thanks

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« Reply #551 on: November 19, 2016, 06:42:20 pm »
How have you guys filled the little gaps between the straight wood pieces?

Probably not gold standard, but I used good quality flexible decorators caulk. Done 3 years ago and still good today. That is, if you're talking about where wood edge meets wood face...

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« Reply #552 on: November 19, 2016, 09:15:39 pm »
What I'm really interested to hear now is how people attached the control panel so that it's firm yet accessible.

I have thought through a few different options but they all seem to have problems with accessibility or potential firmness in use! Would like to hear from someone who's done it!!

(Point of note for mine, i need front and top joined as it'll be one piece of vinyl going round the curve. Otherwise I'm per plans!)

Thanks


Pretty sure that the idea of the control panel for this build was that it was permanently glued together. That said, mine is only painted, so I used 2 elbow catches that I can access from the back of the control panel once I remove it from the cabinet. They hold tight and I've never had any issues with them.

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« Reply #553 on: November 22, 2016, 07:56:27 am »
What I'm really interested to hear now is how people attached the control panel so that it's firm yet accessible.

I have thought through a few different options but they all seem to have problems with accessibility or potential firmness in use! Would like to hear from someone who's done it!!

(Point of note for mine, i need front and top joined as it'll be one piece of vinyl going round the curve. Otherwise I'm per plans!)

Thanks

Pretty sure that the idea of the control panel for this build was that it was permanently glued together. That said, mine is only painted, so I used 2 elbow catches that I can access from the back of the control panel once I remove it from the cabinet. They hold tight and I've never had any issues with them.


Yeah, i think you're right.

After thinking it through i'm going to cut a hatch into the bottom panel of the CP and either attach with magnets or some kind of clip underneath. That way i can fix the whole thing, wrap my stuff, have it bolted from inside so i can remove if needed and then remove the panel for any work.

I'm not actually planning to take it off ever, but want the option if something breaks!

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« Reply #554 on: December 05, 2016, 07:03:14 pm »
What's the general consensus on how to hold the marquee and plexi in place at the top? Just wondering if this might affect how i re-do my marquee piece...

Most people use L brackets, either in metal or plastic. I used 1/4" J channel from Display Products and attached them to top and bottom ends of the marquee boards. Check out my flickr album for more details: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21400288@N05/sets/72157651964841131/

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« Reply #555 on: December 06, 2016, 02:20:58 am »


What's the general consensus on how to hold the marquee and plexi in place at the top? Just wondering if this might affect how i re-do my marquee piece...

Most people use L brackets, either in metal or plastic. I used 1/4" J channel from Display Products and attached them to top and bottom ends of the marquee boards. Check out my flickr album for more details: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21400288@N05/sets/72157651964841131/

Yeah, I was looking at that option but due to the angles at the top of my cab I can't find any that work. I also tried bending some aluminium to shape but looked a bit rubbish.
So I've resigned myself to using a bit of tape and sticking t-moulding over it with hot glue.
I'm not planning on changing the artwork so once it's in place it should look fine

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« Reply #556 on: December 12, 2016, 07:42:50 pm »
Recently finished my OND cab.  This is my first build and it took about three months to complete working primarily on weekends when time permitted.  I learned how to use a router on this project so there were more than a few mistakes made throughout the process!

Thanks to OND for sharing his plans and inspiring me to give this a shot.  Another big thanks to edge929 for sharing the details of his build.  This proved to be very helpful given that I based my build on his CP mod.

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« Reply #557 on: December 13, 2016, 12:11:54 pm »
Recently finished my OND cab.  This is my first build and it took about three months to complete working primarily on weekends when time permitted.  I learned how to use a router on this project so there were more than a few mistakes made throughout the process!

Thanks to OND for sharing his plans and inspiring me to give this a shot.  Another big thanks to edge929 for sharing the details of his build.  This proved to be very helpful given that I based my build on his CP mod.
Nice work mate, looks great!

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #558 on: December 13, 2016, 02:21:58 pm »
Recently finished my OND cab.  This is my first build and it took about three months to complete working primarily on weekends when time permitted.  I learned how to use a router on this project so there were more than a few mistakes made throughout the process!

Thanks to OND for sharing his plans and inspiring me to give this a shot.  Another big thanks to edge929 for sharing the details of his build.  This proved to be very helpful given that I based my build on his CP mod.
Nice work mate, looks great!

Thanks vaderag!  By the way, I saw your post about the marquee and thought I would share what I ended up doing.  I had some challenges here too and wasn't sure how I wanted to secure it to the cab.  I wanted easy access to the light behind it so I ended up buying floor tile edging (link provided), cut it to length (top and bottom) and secured them to the cabinet using industrial velcro.  Plexi fits perfectly between the two pieces and the velcro holds the edging in place really well.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Custom-Building-Products-Polished-Chrome-Anodized-5-16-in-x-98-1-2-in-Aluminum-R-Round-Bullnose-Tile-Edging-Trim-H8711BDC98/206449090

 

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #559 on: December 13, 2016, 05:22:13 pm »
Recently finished my OND cab.  This is my first build and it took about three months to complete working primarily on weekends when time permitted.  I learned how to use a router on this project so there were more than a few mistakes made throughout the process!

Thanks to OND for sharing his plans and inspiring me to give this a shot.  Another big thanks to edge929 for sharing the details of his build.  This proved to be very helpful given that I based my build on his CP mod.
Nice work mate, looks great!

Thanks vaderag!  By the way, I saw your post about the marquee and thought I would share what I ended up doing.  I had some challenges here too and wasn't sure how I wanted to secure it to the cab.  I wanted easy access to the light behind it so I ended up buying floor tile edging (link provided), cut it to length (top and bottom) and secured them to the cabinet using industrial velcro.  Plexi fits perfectly between the two pieces and the velcro holds the edging in place really well.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Custom-Building-Products-Polished-Chrome-Anodized-5-16-in-x-98-1-2-in-Aluminum-R-Round-Bullnose-Tile-Edging-Trim-H8711BDC98/206449090
Interesting... I'm struggling to picture it tho... Would you mind providing a close up pic? At the moment after spending nearly £30 on aluminium I'm not going to use I'm leaning towards the tape option!!