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Rahzel

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« on: June 02, 2002, 10:09:34 pm »
I'm using an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 card and a lot of my games aren't running in full screen in DOS. So i'm trying to setup AdvanceMAME so I can do this, but when I'm in the advcfg.exe program to set it up, it just shows a black screen with every setting possible. I read somewhere that AIW 128 cards are supposed to work with AdvanceMAME. Has anyone else had this problem who can help me out?
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2002, 01:33:24 am »
Try enabling Hardware stretch.   Also, make sure your resolution selected matches your monitor.

In addition, most vertical games do not fill the screen on horizontal monitors, and vice versa.
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2002, 03:05:29 am »
Where is the option in DOS Mame to enable hardware stretch?
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2002, 03:46:54 am »
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Where is the option in DOS Mame to enable hardware stretch?

AFAIK there is none - it's only supported in Windows-MAME. ::)
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2002, 03:49:38 am »
:-[ i'm hopeless...
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2002, 04:12:52 am »
Heard something about a -tweak option in DOS-MAME, but I might be wrong, 'cause I'm only using the Win-version.
As far as I remember, it uses custom resolution (so far available) that match the games most likely. Isnt' there a list of switches when you start it with /? or something like that? Just an idea.
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2002, 02:34:36 am »
Actually, heading up the HW stretch is the wrong approach for DOS MAME.  You really want to be playing at the games' native resolutions and playing around with VESA to see what kind of video modes go full screen and how you can tweak them.

AFAIK the -tweak is for tweaked VGA modes which I never got working full screen.  VBE (That's the VESA TSR) is the way to go.

I'm thinking you're trying to use the TV out on the ATI - do a little looking around to see if there's something special you need to make that happen when using DOS apps.

Good luck   ;)
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2002, 04:49:32 pm »
Thanks for the help guys but I think i've tried almost everything. I might just give up and run my cab in windows, it will save me a lot of time  :P
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2002, 05:40:39 pm »
in the advancemame config, i selected generic monitor and everything is fullscreen.  of course i did this at my own risk.
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2002, 06:41:00 pm »
Dos is bad umk... if your using a tv and your machine is halfway decent switch to windows.  Dos is for those who have to use dos.  IMO
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2002, 06:54:37 pm »
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Dos is bad umk... if your using a tv and your machine is halfway decent switch to windows.
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2002, 09:07:08 pm »
If you're running with tv out then I'm not sure since I have never messed with that but if you are using either a PC monitor or a fixed frequency or limited frequency monitor such as an arcade monitor, than AdvancedMAME is definitely worth the trouble.

I currently use AdvancedMAME on a 27" SVGA arcade style monitor and I am able to get most games using nearly the entire screen even vertical games.  Of course vertical games will have black bars on the left and right of the monitor, that can't be helped if you want to keep the original aspect ratio.

This cabinet has Windows installed on it but I boot straight to DOS.  I have tried MAME32 on it and it just doesn't compare to AdvanceMAME.  Although MAME32 is getting much better, it still doesn't play games right IMO that use non 60Hz refresh rates.  Try playing Moon Patrol or R-type and you will see they don't look right in MAME32.  In AdvancedMAME you can generate modes with the correct refresh rate which will give you smooth scrolling and the correct game aspect ratio...this is of course assuming your monitor can support the desired frequencies.

In the past I have used AdvancedMAME on a real 15Khz monitor and it is much better than DOS MAME or even the windows version of MAME if you want the games to look their best and run the best.  

If you want something that is simple to set up, than no, AdvancedMAME isn't the solution....but it is worth the setup time IMHO.

I'm currently building (albeit slowly) a cocktail cabinet that will house a 19" standard res arcade monitor and although I hope to get it to run windows for networking purposes and maybe some win-based emulators and a jukebox,  it will primarily run AdvancedMAME and AdvancedMENU.

I don't want to sound like a commercial, but the AdvancedProjects are the best thing to happen to the MAME emulation community IMO.  They aren't simple to use but they are worth it!

If you are having troubles with AdvancedMAME, you may wish to try not using the auto modes.  I couldn't get them to work properly so I create my own modes.  You will definitely want to read the docs to understand how to do this and it takes a little experimentation to figure out what does what...
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2002, 10:58:41 pm »
I've heard nothing but good things about AdvanceMAME and i'de love to try it out and use it for my cab but I've tried every mode in the advcfg utility (except for manual settings) and all I get is a black screen. To set this up manually it says I need to find my TV's hclock and vclock in the manual, but mine doesn't say anything about that. Can you just give me some tips how to set up AdvanceMAME and have it work properly? I think i've tried everything  :-/
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2002, 04:51:42 pm »
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I've heard nothing but good things about AdvanceMAME and i'de love to try it out and use it for my cab but I've tried every mode in the advcfg utility (except for manual settings) and all I get is a black screen. To set this up manually it says I need to find my TV's hclock and vclock in the manual, but mine doesn't say anything about that. Can you just give me some tips how to set up AdvanceMAME and have it work properly? I think i've tried everything
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2002, 04:58:34 pm »
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I've heard nothing but good things about AdvanceMAME and i'de love to try it out and use it for my cab but I've tried every mode in the advcfg utility (except for manual settings) and all I get is a black screen. To set this up manually it says I need to find my TV's hclock and vclock in the manual, but mine doesn't say anything about that. Can you just give me some tips how to set up AdvanceMAME and have it work properly? I think i've tried everything
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Re: Full screen
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2002, 09:48:50 pm »
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But don't you think DOS runs games faster? It also doesn't look very cool having the cab run with a windows environment in the background. But I guess it's all worth having full screen games
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