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Blanka:
Well, the UK did create the best looking home computer ever: the ZX spectrum. Well, a ZX is a little bad to use in 2012 for general computing tasks. Know what? Mod in another motherboard. What does fit in this sexy small machine? Not much. WAIT... HEY... A RASPBERRY PI FITS IN!. Let the ZX live forever with PI brains and a modern OS. WOOHOO! :cheers:
ark_ader:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 25, 2012, 04:18:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on March 25, 2012, 03:32:04 pm --- The UK was the leader of software development, and we have more consoles, and buy more games so it seems like an excellent idea to regain the title . ;D
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Any relevant point you had was negated by that statement. I don't mean to pick on you but I would like to know what world you live in where you think that the UK buys more games than the US, or Japan, or heck even South America. You guys are one step away from being Australia in terms of game sales. I would also like to know how you think that the UK is a leader in software development when Google, IBM, NOA and Microsoft are based in the US and Sony, Nintendo and NEC and basically everybody else are based in Japan. The only big, influential UK developer I can think of is Rare, and you know how that turned out. I actually think M$ bought Rare just to keep them from making games for Nintendo... all they seem to work on now are the cruddy Xbox live avatars.
The UK has had plenty of great development studios over the years, but they have mostly been small, independent affairs. I can't think of any time in the history of computing when the UK was considered to be a leader in software development. At many points they were very competitive, but leaders... not particularly.
Now if you had said France.... yeah UbiSoft is a powerhouse to be sure, but even then their largest branch is in Canada... you know, because all the consumers and programmers are in North America. ;)
Again, I'm not trying to pick a fight.. sorry, but when I see something like that all the other words you've typed fade into the background.
I'm wondering how this topic got so far of the rails actually. I keep trying to steer the conversation back to what we are going to do with the Pi and every couple of days somebody wanders in.. ignores my posts and the other on-topic ones and starts drawing the conversation back to it's relevancy... of course I'm going to respond if I don't agree with it, but I think the debate is getting rather pointless. I sorry I voiced my opinion and it differed from the peanut gallery, I didn't expect everybody and their brother to come out of the woodwork and try to make some point against mine. But then again, this is the internet, I should have known better. ;) If people want to talk about potential usage for the device I'm here, otherwise I'm done with this thread.
The above paragraph is going to come out sounding angry..... I'm not at all, I wish I could articulate my feelings a little better. I'm just a little frustrated how any conversation degrades away from relevancy anymore. And yes I realize that the above statement about UK developers is exactly the sort of thing that I'm complaining about, so maybe it can't be helped.
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Pick away. Heck I pick on you enough. ;D I'll do a Shmokes and fix your spelling, While I retort.
You are referring to today's gaming market. I was referring to yesterdays gaming market. We do have some strides (when I say we I am half British so..) like this and we do have a large service market. Game wise, like I typed earlier, is lacking. When we have the up and coming (not this one or maybe not even the next) generation that have the skills, then we will be the gaming mecca as it once was. Twenty years ago I worked at software ect, right after I left the UK and the gaming market was dominated by UK gaming houses. The software on the shelves were mainly from the UK, especially the Amiga and the CBM 64. Apple was American, but the Atari XE had a good run in the UK, as did the Atari ST. It is all inside my xbox1 now and like that comment moot.
You can look at today and say anything you want, but do not underestimate the UK when it comes to programming games, the companies might be foreign, but most of the coders are from the UK. We do buy more games and are quite the leaders when it comes to gaming decisions and market trends. Japan is flash in the pan compared to our economy, and maybe the US one too.
I was at a Games Stop in Vegas in July last year and I had a chat with the Manager and he said the market was dead (Vegas is dead anyway) but I had the same conversation with the Reno Games Stop and they agreed too. Kids are in there but the parents are not buying. I bought some Xbox stuff (why I don't know) pretty cheap.
Our game prices are coming down and we are still buying. With 10% of the 16-24 year old gamers unemployed, lots of time to keep the hobby alive. We just need to get them the Pi so they can learn and get a job.
We like our games as we do the Pi. :cheers:
--- Quote ---If you are suggesting that all 30+ students reach around to the back of a pc, unhook their equiptment to use with the pi and then hook it back up properly when done... well good luck with that.
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Good luck with what? With the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- we have at college we have to reach around the back to fix the loose cables just to work the machines. I am not kidding. It really is a joke, and the best laugh is that we are saving the planet using 300W PSUs when we can get Pi setups that can be powered with less than 10% of that. I remember when I was sitting my computer studies O level back in the day and we had to share a Timex Sinclair (ZX80) to code on. You like membrane Howard? Cut your teeth on the Atari 400 did you? I can see Pi Docks being sold to schools and colleges. HDMI Monitors with USB ports.
I'm writing my thesis for my Honors next year "5 volt cloud", and my little Pi will be part of the study. I'm hoping my college sees the light and orders 20,000 $25 Model A and gives them away free to all the students (no kidding well you should get something for your £9K a year fee) At least the woodwork and plastics department will see some action!
Grasshopper:
--- Quote from: Blanka on March 25, 2012, 04:44:08 pm ---Well, the UK did create the best looking home computer ever: the ZX spectrum. Well, a ZX is a little bad to use in 2012 for general computing tasks. Know what? Mod in another motherboard. What does fit in this sexy small machine? Not much. WAIT... HEY... A RASPBERRY PI FITS IN!. Let the ZX live forever with PI brains and a modern OS. WOOHOO! :cheers:
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Nice idea, but I'm guessing that a ZX Spectrum case would be a little too small for a Raspberry Pi.
However, what would be really cool would be to fit a Raspberry Pi into an old BBC Micro, or Acorn Atom case, as those wonderful machines are the real spiritual predecessors to the Raspberry Pi.
Actually, on second thoughts, I don't think I could bring myself to butcher a real BBC Micro, or Acorn Atom. But if someone started manufacturing a replica case that looked like one of those computers, I'd bite their hands off to get hold of one.
ark_ader:
--- Quote from: Grasshopper on March 27, 2012, 04:46:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: Blanka on March 25, 2012, 04:44:08 pm ---Well, the UK did create the best looking home computer ever: the ZX spectrum. Well, a ZX is a little bad to use in 2012 for general computing tasks. Know what? Mod in another motherboard. What does fit in this sexy small machine? Not much. WAIT... HEY... A RASPBERRY PI FITS IN!. Let the ZX live forever with PI brains and a modern OS. WOOHOO! :cheers:
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Nice idea, but I'm guessing that a ZX Spectrum case would be a little too small for a Raspberry Pi.
However, what would be really cool would be to fit a Raspberry Pi into an old BBC Micro, or Acorn Atom case, as those wonderful machines are the real spiritual predecessors to the Raspberry Pi.
Actually, on second thoughts, I don't think I could bring myself to butcher a real BBC Micro, or Acorn Atom. But if someone started manufacturing a replica case that looked like one of those computers, I'd bite their hands off to get hold of one.
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Considering how much the BBC, Atom, and Electron goes on ebay I would agree.
Replica cases is a great idea for a niche market.
Since the Pi will be the death knell for low powered ITX boards.
knave:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on March 28, 2012, 05:58:13 am ---Since the Pi will be the death knell for low powered ITX boards.
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You really think so?
...I'm not so sure. I am excited about the PI but to me it will make a great media device, or Mame unit. but If I really wanted a small computer I would still rather have a ITX based unit with a full array of ports possibly even a slot for a real HD.
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