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Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: kahlid74 on March 13, 2012, 10:53:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 13, 2012, 08:53:11 pm ---I'm still unsure of that as well. 


We don't have a build of linux on it yet, much less one specifically for mame that can be installed and setup easily. 

At least until it gets in people's hands and they live for it for a while I think we are trading one set of problems for another. 


It's smaller and uses less power... atm at least, those are it's only benefits.



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Not true.  Fedora has released their Linux distro for it - http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/805

Also, it uses the last generation of arm which is supported in just about every Linux distro except Ubuntu who decided they no longer wanted to support it.

Also, your 50-75 dollar computers use significantly more power and produces more heat/noise.  The key about the Raspberry Pi is form factor, power and heat.  This is an age old comparison you can't do because they aren't in the same category.  It's like comparing a Laptop to a desktop.  It's foolish because they have different use cases.

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Have you seen somebody running mame on it?  Because if you haven't my point still stands.  If you'll notice I said that we don't have a build of linux ON it yet, not that there aren't ones that support it.  In other words how well the operating systems work with the device hasn't been proven yet. 

I'm pretty sure I just said that it's only benefits is that it's smaller and uses less power..... I'm not sure why you are repeating that to me like I don't understand that. 

It isn't foolish to compare a laptop to a desktop at all.  A laptop is identical in every category except one, form factor, so they are easily comparable. If you are on the go you use a laptop.... if you are too cheap to have both a desktop and laptop and need a laptop then you use a laptop.... otherwise, you should get a desktop.

My problem with the Pi atm is that it's so similar to a arm-based tablet.. in fact you should be able to run the same stuff on it if you switch out the OS.  The only difference is tablets have becoem an established platform, you get more hardware for your money and they offer more in terms of user-friendly apps.  The thing is, if this thing would have been released 5 years ago like it was supposed to, it would have been down right amazing.  The march of progress has passed it by since it's creation..... I'm not sure about it's usefulness anymore. 

We are just going to have to wait and see.

kahlid74:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 14, 2012, 03:18:41 am ---Have you seen somebody running mame on it?  Because if you haven't my point still stands.  If you'll notice I said that we don't have a build of linux ON it yet, not that there aren't ones that support it.  In other words how well the operating systems work with the device hasn't been proven yet. 

I'm pretty sure I just said that it's only benefits is that it's smaller and uses less power..... I'm not sure why you are repeating that to me like I don't understand that. 

It isn't foolish to compare a laptop to a desktop at all.  A laptop is identical in every category except one, form factor, so they are easily comparable. If you are on the go you use a laptop.... if you are too cheap to have both a desktop and laptop and need a laptop then you use a laptop.... otherwise, you should get a desktop.

My problem with the Pi atm is that it's so similar to a arm-based tablet.. in fact you should be able to run the same stuff on it if you switch out the OS.  The only difference is tablets have becoem an established platform, you get more hardware for your money and they offer more in terms of user-friendly apps.  The thing is, if this thing would have been released 5 years ago like it was supposed to, it would have been down right amazing.  The march of progress has passed it by since it's creation..... I'm not sure about it's usefulness anymore. 

We are just going to have to wait and see.

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Fedora Remix was built ON a Raspberry Pi by Fedora Developers, so I'll assume when they say it runs well, it runs well.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your original statement was two fold: no working Linux distro on it and no working MAME on it.  The first part is not true, the second part is still true.  If this wasn't your original statement then my bad.

Even if Laptops and Desktops are identical, they have different use cases, just like you said.  So if my point is use cased based, then you can't compare them.  If I am on the go, a desktop is no longer an option.  If I am building a PC and need this size or this power, then a tablet is no longer a comparable option.  If use case is not required then yes, compare all you want.

I get what you're saying, I do.  My feeling is that this isn't behind the curve, and is still 100% applicable.  I can now take a Raspberry Pi coupled with an Arduino and basically build a fully functional PLC for 60 dollars whose form factor is in most cases smaller than a real PLC.  To me that's huge.  Raw computing power is behind the curve sure, but applicable uses are still super far and wide.

kahlid74:
35 for the Raspberry PI
5 for shipping
?? for tax.  They say it depends on local state tax so we'll see how Wisconsin will take my money again.

kahlid74:

--- Quote from: kahlid74 on March 14, 2012, 08:51:37 am ---Fedora Remix was built ON a Raspberry Pi by Fedora Developers, so I'll assume when they say it runs well, it runs well.

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So here's a great article talking about the currently used and working Linux Distro's on Raspbrry Pi.  I'll eat my own words as the Fedora port seems to be sluggish and not so good but the Debian and Archlinux ones are rocking.

http://www.designspark.com/content/raspberry-pi-review

Also, it looks like there is an ARM MAME Beta in existence.  No idea how well it works though - http://caesar.logiqx.com/php/emulator.php?id=armmame

kahlid74:

--- Quote from: pinballjim on March 14, 2012, 11:49:49 am ---No need to pay sales tax.

Where exactly did you order it from?  I'm not doubting you, I'm trying to put in an order myself. 

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Element 14 - http://downloads.element14.com/raspberryPi2.html?isRedirect=true

I signed up after they first ran out of them.  I got emailed that they got them in again or were taking backorders again so I logged in about an hour after that email and was able to purchase one.

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