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AtomSmasher:

--- Quote from: Generic Eric on February 19, 2012, 06:22:37 pm ---So this would be like the MAMEY?  I've submitted stuff to them, but didn't get an acknowledgment that it was received.  It made me wonder how active that was.



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I don't think the Mamey's have been active since 2009.

http://mameys.arcadecontrols.com/awards.html

Le Chuck:
Mamey = fried chicken

Besides, I'm with Dave, they tended towards the predictable but yes, this gets to a similar end as the Mamey but I think can provide a secondary service and if we tie it into the forum perhaps it can have sustainability.    

Edit:

I went back through the Mamey site and there are a lot of comments like this:


--- Quote ---...it is a modification on the original cocktail design, plus it's like a freaky transformer, and it's shiny.
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Which is fun, and totally true, but isn't how the judge's commentary would need to be to have the project be educational.  The cab referenced in that quote is Pott's cocktail.  It's stunning, but it's a cocktail with one side by side CP eliminating cocktail mode from a cocktail.  Does that make or break it, no, but it should be referenced and the pros and cons should be considered.  Same deal with the some of the button placements.  What happens when we judge <academically weigh the merits of> this cocktail against other cocktails?  That sort of review might give a browsing forum member the springboard to go into unknown territory that can split the difference between Pott's great build and a more classic cocktail build that is equally well executed.      

DaveMMR:

--- Quote from: Le Chuck on February 19, 2012, 06:38:58 pm ---I went back through the Mamey site and there are a lot of comments like this:


--- Quote ---...it is a modification on the original cocktail design, plus it's like a freaky transformer, and it's shiny.
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Which is fun, and totally true, but isn't how the judge's commentary would need to be to have the project be educational.  The cab referenced in that quote is Pott's cocktail.  It's stunning, but it's a cocktail with one side by side CP eliminating cocktail mode from a cocktail.  Does that make or break it, no, but it should be referenced and the pros and cons should be considered.  Same deal with the some of the button placements.  What happens when we judge <academically weigh the merits of> this cocktail against other cocktails?  That sort of review might give a browsing forum member the springboard to go into unknown territory that can split the difference between Pott's great build and a more classic cocktail build that is equally well executed.      

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It's funny, but I think half the criticism levied against it would be negated by reclassifying it as a unique candy cab as opposed to a cocktail. But, yes, that type of critique was something I had in mind and not just focusing on the pretty colors. And it's funny you mentioned the button placement, that's the first thing I saw (the two random buttons towards the bottom of the panel). It's those little things that really separate the good cabs from the great cabs and should be explored, explaining why it may detract from the design.

(BTW: Not trying to take away anything from Pott's award. It is definitely deserving.)

Le Chuck:
Dave, I'm right there with you.  It's too easy to pick apart an average cab or a bad cab and say this could be done better.  The builder is probably sitting back saying "No ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- sherlock, this is my first time, how about some slack" but I think that taking what the community says are a lot of great cabs or ideas and looking at them against each other give us a chance to say "this method of mounting speakers gives a much cleaner appearance" or "This is a great example of a cheap home made marquee retainer that looks professional and doesn't at all detract from the cab"

The community doesn't need a counsel to make those judgements on their behalf but it will localize a lot of good information and it will help our all star builders consider different ways of doing things... maybe somebody will even agree and decide to improve their cab and get even more enjoyment out of it. 

I was contemplating whether the first cycle of this should go all the way back to antiquity or just pick up with the last 12 months.  I'm really thinking that to be manageable and contemporary that we can't go any further back then about two years and after that pick up on a yearly type cycle. 

DaveMMR:

--- Quote from: Le Chuck on February 19, 2012, 08:55:36 pm ---I was contemplating whether the first cycle of this should go all the way back to antiquity or just pick up with the last 12 months.  I'm really thinking that to be manageable and contemporary that we can't go any further back then about two years and after that pick up on a yearly type cycle. 

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I'm actually on the fence as well.  It would be cool to look at some of the most noteworthy projects of all time and re-examine them, including some really groundbreaking projects like PacMamea, Neon Mame or Roswell 88201, but would it be a pain to manage or unfair to the newer projects?

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