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Anyone Else Jazzed About the New Avengers Movie?
shmokes:
Those tall tales are overflowing with conflict. They entertain by showing the comical and ironic ways the conflicts are resolved. Same goes for Alice in Wonderland. You could hardly have a more conflicted character. She's utterly lost in a world of complete madness. Everything she knows has been turned on its head. Baron Munchausen's stories, while possibly lacking in credibility, certainly don't want for conflict.
I get that there's more to storytelling than just conflict. There's perspective, tension, setting, character, style, and so on. But without conflict you have no story. You have nothing to tell.
Vigo:
I wasn't saying there wasn't conflict. I was disputing your claim of greater conflict = greater story. Sure there is plenty of conflict, but all of a minimal level or plight to the character. In the tall tales they rode around, kicked ass, and amazed people with great feats. The fact that they kicked ass in such a cool way is what made them memorable.
And that is not to say there Superman doesn't have larger conflict. He has to deal with keeping his identity hidden, worry about a variety of weaknesses ranging from the obvious - different types of kryptonite and having to get energy from the sun, to enemies that can do things from using magic to alter reality to destroy the entire planet. Superman has to deal with enemies using his good nature against him. Threatening those around him. I wouldn't say superman has been crapped on in life as much as Spiderman, but it isn't this effortless task you make it out to be.
kahlid74:
--- Quote from: Mikezilla on April 27, 2012, 11:34:14 am ---How the hell is Flash able to kill everyone? What the hell is the Speed Force? The only thing I have ever heard that about was in Kingdom Come, and I thought it was kind of lame, like they were trying to make Flash more powerful than what he was. Im not big into DC, Im a Marvel guy, but cmon. Supes essentially has the same power as Flash does, right?! I dont know who Zantana is.
Also, ANYONE can kill Superman. Thats the cool thing. Batman has beat the crap out of him a number of times.
--- End quote ---
Zatana is a power house in the magic world. Lots of stuff there but essentially she's way OP. Flash is also OP. It's a misnomer thinking people are as fast as the Flash. There are also several iterations of the Flash. The true flash is Barry Allen. Wally West is close but Barry Allen IS the speed force. The Speed Force is what allows all movement in the DC universe. Essentially it's the power of life. Unrestricted and unfettered and unparalleled. Barry Allen is infinitely faster than Supes. If Supes was at full speed, Barry Allens could essentially run circles around Supes, like billions of times lol. Supes is strong, don't get me wrong, it's just Flash is insane. Barry Allen/Wally West and the power of the speed force is OP. They can essentially strip the Speed Force from anything, making you stuck where you stand before you can even think of moving and it's already over at that point.
Yes, Batman has, but they key is to understand thought and movement. At the end of the day by the time anyone would even consider moving no one can, because the Speed Force just got stolen from everyone. Like I said, my friend and I had an awesome drunk conversation about this over burgers and brats in the northern Wisconsin winter and Flash won out.
Vigo:
Never read the flash, but I picked up enough to know he had some crazy side abilities from his speed. If I remember right, flash could go so fast that he could bend time to his will or cross dimensions. Even vibrate so fast that he could travel through solid matter. I think he could also think just as fast as he could run.
I think he also raced superman, but let him win or something because he didn't want superman to look bad, being that he is in the public eye so much.
Trip:
Watched a cam already. It's ok.... If you didn't like Captain America, you should probably avoid this one.
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