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shmokes:
As I reread my last post, admittedly after a few vodka tonics, I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity. It's a simple matter of accomplishment. It was the Larry Ellison reference that tipped me off. The regular poor guy accomplishes more by sending his kid. He overcomes greater obstacles. He works harder. He accomplishes more. The end is irrelevant. Both parents reach the same end. But one parent accomplished more in the getting there than the other. THAT'S Superman's problem. His feats are too easy. They aren't the same accomplishments they would be if he weren't so ---smurfing--- powerful. His godlike abilities make commonplace what would be heroic in any other person. And that's what makes him so uninteresting. His bar is so high it's impossible to impress. And if a person isn't impressing, who the ---fudgesicle--- cares about him?

Gray_Area:
At least in the 80s, I thought Wolvie had tons of humour. Maybe you have to spell it that way ta get it. Plus, he's the best of 'em, because HE'LL KILL YOU. No wimpiness here. The only perhaps better 80s character in this regard was The Punisher. His humor was so dark it was scary cool....or cooly scary.

Mikezilla:

--- Quote from: shmokes on February 17, 2012, 04:30:58 pm ---It's about personal sacrifice. Not all actions are equal even when they are equal. When a dad takes a second job so his kid can travel to Europe with his high school class it means something more than when Larry Ellison's kid signs up for the trip. It's not saying that Larry Ellison is a bad guy. For all I know he spends have his time trying to cure Leukemia. But not all equal actions are created equal. I simply refuse to believe that you don't understand what I'm saying. This has to be deliberate. There is a palpable difference between, "Thank you, you saved me," and, "Thank you, you risked your life to save me."  Those are two different things. Super ---smurfing--- obviously two different things. If you don't see that I have a difficult time believing that it isn't intentional.

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Of course I see that, but these are regular people we are talking about. Like you said, we are talking about things of fiction. In the comics, when Superman defends the Earth against an unseen threat that the people dont even know about, dont you deem that heroic? The end result is yeah, their lives are saved, but cmon. Imagine the strain on Superman considering his abilities. Thats his headache, he can do pretty much anything, and he does good. He makes the "world" a better place. Other heroes look up to him, and aspire to be like him. Yeah that sounds retarded cause Im a grown ass man talking about comics in that way, but when I was a kid, a little kid, like 5 or 6, I LOVED Superman. I grew to like Spiderman more, but man. Superman was the hero for me when I was young. Especially since I didnt have any real life heroes in my life when I was a kid. My dad left, and our house was never on fire, so it was cool to imagine what it would be like to live in a world with Superman in it. I would probably say the only real person I really idolized in real life was my mom.  

shmokes:
I thought Superman was awesome too when I was a kid. But I liked Today's Special and Smurf's then, too. Then I grew up and realized that he's nothing but dessert and in the end dinner is actually the best part. You don't realize that as a kid.s

Rando:

--- Quote from: shmokes on February 17, 2012, 04:30:58 pm ---But not all equal actions are created equal. I simply refuse to believe that you don't understand what I'm saying. This has to be deliberate. There is a palpable difference between, "Thank you, you saved me," and, "Thank you, you risked your life to save me."  Those are two different things.

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Shmokes,
If I fell off a building, I wouldn't give a rat's ass if you flew under your own power to save me with your invulnerable pecs, caught me in your invisible jet, shot some web junk to snare me, or held a trampoline with 5 other regular guys that bounced me into a big pile of feathers.  I was going to die, and then I didn't, thanks to you.  Thanks big guy.
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