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Howard_Casto:
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I disagree, Nitz... burton's batman films were infinately superior to pretty much every super hero film released since INCLUDNG the new batman films.
He got the top three things right:
1. Gotham City is the star of any Batman film... period... everything else is icing on the cake.
2. Batman is boring (in the short term at least) and a downer as a whole, so focus on the villians
3. Realism is IMPOSSIBLE when your arch emenies run around in halloween costumes doing stupid "themed" attacks... so just go with it.
Those three points have relevance in other films as well, most notably Superman.... this is why the aforementioned Superman II was so frikkin awesome.
And quit posting pics of me guys! I'll get embarrassed.
Bootay:
Howard: I agree. The first 2 Burton films were exactly like how the comics were at the time. I didn't care much for the half man half big style of The Penguin, but it still had the tone.
Actually as much ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that people give the Adam West Batman, those were dead on with what the comic was like at the time too.
Batman started off dark but after a few issues DC told the writers to introduce Robin and make it more kid friendly. After the introduction of Robin things slowly turned to Adam West style. Throughout the 50s and 60s Batman comics were exactly like Adam West Batman. Then in the 70s they rebooted the series and made him dark and brooding again.
As much as I like the new Batman films, they really aren't like the comics. Everyone rants and raves about Ledger's Joker, but he really isn't all that much like the comic version. I did like his version don't get me wrong. But Jack played him dead on when compared to the comic. I am not in any way knocking the new ones because I do enjoy them. (except for the Batmobile....I HATE the Batmobile in the new movies)
Vigo:
:stupid This is spot on with how I feel as well. :applaud: Maybe I don't mind DeVito's Penguin as much (Although I love Burgess Meredith's Penguin from the Adam West Batman series much more).
Mikezilla:
The only reason Ledgers Joker got so much play, was because he died before the movie came out. Seriously. It was good and all, but cmon, it wasnt THAT great. I liked Nicholsons Joker WAY more. Dont get me wrong, I liked Ledgers joker, and it fit the tone for that movie, going with realism etc, but I dont want EVERY movie I see to be realistic, cmon. Its a superhero movie. Its the comics come to life.
Like Bootay said, Nicholsons joker was perfect, thats how he is in the comics. I loved Burtons Batman because thats what I grew up with, and the Batmobile is FAR superior, but I do like how the Nolan series shows how he actuall became Batman, with the training etc.
I also agree with shmokes regarding the need to "reboot" the series. The thing that pisses me off was that the last Raimi flick came out 5 years ago. Its not like a whole generation has passed and peope forgot who spiderman was or something. Hell, my grandma knows how spidey got his powers. Its a complete waste of time... and a waste because if it doesnt do well, they wont put any more money into it. I still want to see Venom done right. Screw the hokey villains like Vulture and Mysterio... This lizard is going to be lame too.
Vigo:
Yeah, Nicholson's Joker was definitely perfect. He had jokes, gags, squirting flowers, everything joker, but Nicholson used it in a way that didn't diminish the character. He was still unsettling and scary. And who didn't want that batmobile? The new one just makes me think of a Hummer. Bulky and obnoxious. The origins in batman begins is excellent, and I love that they didn't just explain everything away as, "Oh, he's a millionaire, of course he can just buy all the gadgets he wants".
--- Quote from: Mikezilla on February 10, 2012, 12:33:35 pm ---Screw the hokey villains like Vulture and Mysterio... This lizard is going to be lame too.
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Mysterio hokey? Aww...I love Mysterio....but you are right, A guy with a fishbowl on his head that poofs around with stage smoke is on the hokey end. :lol It would have to take absolute brilliant directing and writing to make him good on the screen. As a kid, I used to love him as a villian though. I just always was a sucker for villains without any real powers, you usually got a little more of a plot out of their schemes. I agree completely about venom though. He is some of the best of the spidey series, and it was a shame to see it trashed the way it was. Which pretty much shut the door to make anything cool out of Carnage as well.
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