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| 1500points:
wow, this thread was an extensive geekfest. Interesting jaunt through perceived video game history. If the thread is about playability with robotron- I learned on microswitch bats, spent some time with the xbox 360 joysticks, then real wico leafs, and finally put some wico 360 opticals in a mame setup. All said and done, the wico leafs would help a learning player do better. but an accomplished player would be able to get the same score on all models of joystick as it is more about movement strategy and technique, eh. My personal preference when you get into the "zone" is the leafs because it seems like the pressure of the leafs becomes hyper aware in your hands. kinda surreal twilight zone effect as the gameplay seems slower in your brain. Ever tried playing Joust with microswitch buttons at the higher levels? extremely hard to beat the shadow lords. but a leaf gives a nice performance edge that puts the player at the advantage. |
| CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: 1500points on April 30, 2012, 06:37:41 pm ---All said and done, the wico leafs would help a learning player do better. but an accomplished player would be able to get the same score on all models of joystick as it is more about movement strategy and technique, eh. My personal preference when you get into the "zone" is the leafs because it seems like the pressure of the leafs becomes hyper aware in your hands. kinda surreal twilight zone effect as the gameplay seems slower in your brain. Ever tried playing Joust with microswitch buttons at the higher levels? extremely hard to beat the shadow lords. but a leaf gives a nice performance edge that puts the player at the advantage. --- End quote --- Made me think of double-flap button presses that seem to work so much better on leafs than micros ... but that could just be in my mind. |
| Gray_Area:
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on April 30, 2012, 07:07:35 pm --- Made me think of double-flap button presses that seem to work so much better on leafs than micros ... but that could just be in my mind. --- End quote --- I can see this. The former, that is. The problem I find is the leafs possibly being fluttery so as not to have consistent actuation. I noticed this recently on a restored, but not NOS-buttoned, Track and Field. I'm wondering about the Wico opticals. I have P360s, and like them, but the spring is a little tough at times. |
| opt2not:
Anyone know a good source for nos leaf-switches? Bob Roberts has some, but they're his nylon replicas that are going for $4 a switch! Apparently they should last longer, but I don't know about spending that much for switches. |
| 1500points:
local413 on klov seems to be wico central. i've not purchased from him before but he seems legit. http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=233822 regarding the leaf flutter. that's just a matter of finetuning the adjustment like you would on a pinball machine flipper assembly. regarding 360s. i have them right here on my laptop mame setup. they are smooth but for long games the spring tension bugs me. wish it could be loosened up a bit. 2 nights ago I turned my real machine back to level 10 to help advance my focus on the waves up to 20 (5man tournament prep). forgot how fun that is. what a great overall game. |
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