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Vigo:

--- Quote from: shmokes on January 28, 2012, 11:30:31 pm ---Of course, the theme is so stupid to begin with it's hard to imagine anyone making a success out of it. Captain America? It's just embarrassing.

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A patriotic, do-goody superhero wearing the colors of our flag and fighting for justice, how could that ever succeed? You might as well call him superma--- oh wait...  ;)




Just as an FYI, Captain America was created during WW2. Sure it may be a bit dated, but as far as the golden age of comics goes, Captain America is about as iconic as it gets, apart form the Sup'.

I do know there is a Captain Canuck in Canada and a Captain Britain in the UK. I don't know much about Capt'n Canuck, but Capt'n Britian draws a lot from Arthurian legend.

I think it is pretty darn common for countries to have at least one "national superhero"  :dunno

Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: Le Chuck on January 27, 2012, 10:43:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 27, 2012, 10:20:05 pm ---
Let's take a look shall we?

Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the film, not the series)
Alien Resurrection
Speed
Waterworld
Twister
X-men
 

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I like every single movie on that list.


--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 27, 2012, 10:20:05 pm ---I'm rooting for the guy because his good work is REALLY good, but he's starting to look like the Next George Lucas.... famous for one and only one fantastic thing.

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Which fantastic thing would that be?  The entire Star Wars cannon, or Indiana Jones?  Maybe American Graffitti.  Hard to say  ;D

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The SWT and that's it.  Indiana Jones was saved by Speilberg's Directing, so Lucas gets little if any credit.  Try watching a Indy film, remove all the sfx great camera shots and focus on just the story.... that bit of "gold" was Lucas's.   Ever seen American Graffitti?  It's one of those terrible 80's style teen comedies set in the 50's.  Excessively overrated.  And if you like any part of the SWU other than the SWT then you have poor taste and that pretty much explains why you are defending him.  ;)  Regardless, giving Lucas credit for the entire universe is like giving Roddenberry credit for Star Trek Enterprise.... he has, little if nothing to do with most of the extended universe.

Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: thefearsomefearful on January 28, 2012, 12:25:01 am ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 27, 2012, 10:20:05 pm ---
Really?  You really think his FILMS are good? 

Let's take a look shall we?

Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the film, not the series)
Alien Resurrection
Speed
Waterworld
Twister
X-men



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You obviously don't know much about the man.  He had very little (if anything at all) to do with most of the films you mentioned (early script drafts that were thrown out) and you forgot one he did: Toy Story. You're right, he is only known for one good thing...  ::) I am just saying, I expect to enjoy Avengers more because of his involvement. Between Avengers, Cabin in the Woods, and Much ado About Nothing, I have no doubt his movie directing career will be as well received as his TV career was. I only wish The Avengers had more strong female leads (Black Widow, meh), as he obviously shines in that kind of situation (Buffy, River Tam, etc.).

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Wrong.  I know way way too much about him.  I'm a hardcore Buffy/Firefly fan. ;)  He had a LOT to do with those films.  In the case of Buffy and Resurrection he wrote the whole damn thing.  He refuses to admit it though (going so far as to actually request that his credits be removed) because he wants to protect his image as some sort of nerdist genius.  On the other hand, Toy Story went really really well, so even though he was one of 6 writers that worked on the script, he takes all the credit he possibly can.  Now don't get me wrong, it's a very smart thing for a writer to selectively publisize himzelf in Hollywood, but what it does is make it look like he's a far better writer than he actually is. 

You talk about his movie career like it's just starting.  He's been doing films for AGES.  He actually started doing tv because he was such a failure at films.  Now he's doing films because he's went full circle and has become a failure at tv.  (Ever seen dollhouse?  BLEH!)

I hope he does do well, but if this were vegas, the odds of him making a good film would be pretty slim.

Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: Vigo on January 29, 2012, 01:41:44 am ---
--- Quote from: shmokes on January 28, 2012, 11:30:31 pm ---Of course, the theme is so stupid to begin with it's hard to imagine anyone making a success out of it. Captain America? It's just embarrassing.

--- End quote ---

A patriotic, do-goody superhero wearing the colors of our flag and fighting for justice, how could that ever succeed? You might as well call him superma--- oh wait...  ;)




Just as an FYI, Captain America was created during WW2. Sure it may be a bit dated, but as far as the golden age of comics goes, Captain America is about as iconic as it gets, apart form the Sup'.

I do know there is a Captain Canuck in Canada and a Captain Britain in the UK. I don't know much about Capt'n Canuck, but Capt'n Britian draws a lot from Arthurian legend.

I think it is pretty darn common for countries to have at least one "national superhero"  :dunno

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Please my foreign friends don't get mad, but the reason American superheros are so awesome is because America is awesome (the symbolisim at least). 

You never hear of someone wanting to live the "french dream" or move to canada, the "land of opportunity". 

Vigo is dead on in regards to this point anyway. 

Also the Cap is STILL a fantastic super-hero.  If anything superman is the lame one, what with his brainless boyscout act.  The cap started as wartime propaganda but over the years evolved as a figure that always did the right thing, even if the right thing wasn't the popular opinion at the time.  He often faces up against the goverment and even other superheros to defend "american" morality and rights.  The whole beign frozen for 50 years kind of helps to make him a romantic legend as well.  It also gives him a bit of "I can be slightly corny" leeway as well.  Supes on the other hand has remained virtually unchanged with no explaination.  I like em both, I'm just saying....

You have to remember that characters like CA and SM were invented as symbols to help people get through the darkest times of ww2.  The garish, over the top outfits are part of their symbolism and they made such a lasting impression that even 70+ years later people STILL get mad if you try to monkey with their costumes or make the characters too dark. 

Mind you this has nothing to do with the film, other than the fact that the potential was there.

SNAAKE:
cpt america movie wasnt THAT bad.. :dunno

wasnt even bad at all. easily top 10 of the year. personal opinion of course.


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