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Myst is on Iphone!
ark_ader:
--- Quote ---1. Yes because my old 486 dx still works wonderfully and even if it didn't those games will still run just fine on my windows 7 pc without the need for complex emulators! Also my 486dx is one of those magic ones you can fit in my pocket! You are absolutely right!
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My Galaxy S has a good working x86 emulator as well as a PSX emulator. Please tell me why I cannot use that to run Myst? Well I do actually. It rocks on my Android Tegra 2 Tablet.
--- Quote ---2. Yes because pac-man and dig dug aren't timeless classics, pac-man and digdug "arrangement" are!
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Taken out of context. This was an example of innovation from the original developers. Like PacMan Championship Edition DX.
--- Quote ---3. Yeah because Don Bluth still makes animations for laserdisc games, he'll do em for free too... let me call him to get right on that! He's a nice guy too, he doesn't indiscriminantly serve cease and desist orders to anyone trying to make games with his characters at all! I mean it's not like he's filed C&D orders to people who've tried to make a fan game based on unused concept art of an unreleased game or anything.
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Digital Leisure still makes alternative games on the same genre. Arcade hardware development in 1983 was very expensive as was the creation of the content. Today you can run a script that will do the same job, and can be flash instead of hand drawn animation. At $4.99 a download I am sure Mr Bluth would make his money back and some. In my original post I am referring to ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS not copyists Howard. ::) BTW have you met Mr Bluth? Have you met Gary Goldman? I have and yes it was a thrill to speak to them.
--- Quote ---4. Yeah because it takes far less effort to get dos-box ported and properly running on a system that lacks pc architecture than it does to simply rework and enhance the one game you actually wanted to release.
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You and I both now that is complete crap. You can port a game to another platform. How many ports are there of Mame on different architectures? ::) How many ports are there for Myst? Hello? Earth calling Howard. ::)
--- Quote ---Listen man.... I've been doing pointless angry rants on this forum for over 14 years.
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Well I know of your pointless rants of the past 4 years, so I will have to take your word on the rest.
Congratulations Howard it is 2012 your 15th year of pointless rants. Keep em coming! :applaud:
DaveMMR:
--- Quote from: ark_ader link=topic=117400.msg1244104#msg1244104 ---
If you purchase the same game over and over, it just creates lazy programmers, bad ports and tired products.
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No one is forcing you to buy anything. There are tons of apps that are fresh and original you can spend your money on. Don't see why this bugs you so much.
Personally I like old games being rereleased for new hardware. Many people don't know how or are unwilling to get old games working on modern computers and this gives them a chance to experience them.
fallacy:
--- Quote ---No one is forcing you to buy anything. There are tons of apps that are fresh and original you can spend your money on. Don't see why this bugs you so much.
Personally I like old games being rereleased for new hardware. Many people don't know hiw or are unwilling to get old games working on modern computers and this gives them a chance to experience them.
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Exactly Myst works so great on the Iphone 4 S it was almost like it was made for it to begin with.
By the way on a different topic is the iphone 4s come from the distant future or dropped off by aliens? I just can’t comprehend how a device can be that small be so smooth and powerful, not get hot, has a camera better than some of my digital cameras that I own, has a screen so clear and vivid and can easily read books off of it. I was always reluctant to get any smart phone, thinking they were slow, bad battery life, expensive, and nothing that I could do on them would not be 4 times easer to just do on my pc. But man this thing is firkin awesome.
Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 21, 2012, 06:38:39 am ---
--- Quote ---1. Yes because my old 486 dx still works wonderfully and even if it didn't those games will still run just fine on my windows 7 pc without the need for complex emulators! Also my 486dx is one of those magic ones you can fit in my pocket! You are absolutely right!
--- End quote ---
My Galaxy S has a good working x86 emulator as well as a PSX emulator. Please tell me why I cannot use that to run Myst? Well I do actually. It rocks on my Android Tegra 2 Tablet.
--- Quote ---2. Yes because pac-man and dig dug aren't timeless classics, pac-man and digdug "arrangement" are!
--- End quote ---
Taken out of context. This was an example of innovation from the original developers. Like PacMan Championship Edition DX.
--- Quote ---3. Yeah because Don Bluth still makes animations for laserdisc games, he'll do em for free too... let me call him to get right on that! He's a nice guy too, he doesn't indiscriminantly serve cease and desist orders to anyone trying to make games with his characters at all! I mean it's not like he's filed C&D orders to people who've tried to make a fan game based on unused concept art of an unreleased game or anything.
--- End quote ---
Digital Leisure still makes alternative games on the same genre. Arcade hardware development in 1983 was very expensive as was the creation of the content. Today you can run a script that will do the same job, and can be flash instead of hand drawn animation. At $4.99 a download I am sure Mr Bluth would make his money back and some. In my original post I am referring to ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS not copyists Howard. ::) BTW have you met Mr Bluth? Have you met Gary Goldman? I have and yes it was a thrill to speak to them.
--- Quote ---4. Yeah because it takes far less effort to get dos-box ported and properly running on a system that lacks pc architecture than it does to simply rework and enhance the one game you actually wanted to release.
--- End quote ---
You and I both now that is complete crap. You can port a game to another platform. How many ports are there of Mame on different architectures? ::) How many ports are there for Myst? Hello? Earth calling Howard. ::)
--- Quote ---Listen man.... I've been doing pointless angry rants on this forum for over 14 years.
--- End quote ---
Well I know of your pointless rants of the past 4 years, so I will have to take your word on the rest.
Congratulations Howard it is 2012 your 15th year of pointless rants. Keep em coming! :applaud:
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Ugh!!!!
That was my nice simple, round-about way of saying "this isn't one you can win... let it go" but since you replied.
1. I never said you couldn't... I said it would be more cumbersome. I think you forget something.... this is byoac... we aren't "normal" computer users. Getting an unofficial app running on a tablet and then getting ahold of a 15 year old game and installing it on said emulator is pretty much impossible to the lamen.
2. No it wasn't taken out of context. You are saying that revisions are better than the original, it's seldom the case. I love dx, for example... but it's no ms. pacman.
3. Digital Leisure is NOT Don Bluth..... DL doesn't make crap, they hold the liscenses to stuff. The few things they did do in house were just terrible and didn't contain any original footage. My point was the only person that can do a proper DL sequel is don bluth, and he just isn't interested. I'm glad you met him, good for you, but I can't call someone a nice guy when they've halted tiny fan projects based on obscure games that weren't hurting anybody. Someone was working on a game that Starred Kimberly from space ace... it was all original animation and was going to be released for free. Don Bluth studios threatened to sue the guy. Someone else wanted to start a game based upon the single concept sketch DB released of a sailor and a mermaid. The project was killed before it ever got off the ground.
And aside form that... seriously? You think a crappy flash game NOT done by bluth studios is going to be anywhere as good as the original? What you are basically saying right there is you want sequels, even if they are of an inferior quality.
4. I didn't say it was impossible.... I said it took more effort. MAME is designed to be portable, dos box and similar x86 emulators aren't. Porting something is easy, getting it to actually run well isn't. Just for example... MAME was ported to the android recently.... version 37 that is. Why? Because MAME isn't optimized for android and thus it requires too much system resources. On the other hand a emulator written for android from the ground up could probably do a much better job. I beleive you when you say you got Myst running, but to be honest that's a shock to me. Myst was pretty beefy back in the day and tablets (iphone excluded) don't have the greatest of specs.
You poor guy.... I put that comment at the end as a nice way of saying that YOUR rant is pointless. All these rebuttals weren't the end-all-be-all end of the argument but examples to point out how foolish you looked saying those things as they were a definate. But it went over your head I guess, good luck thinking there was a point to your outburst of getting ticked off when people were just complaining about you are constantly complaining. ;)
Gotta love irony.
ark_ader:
I'm not ticked off. I'm not complaining as such. But every time we have a new device we have this absolute desire to bang something that was made in 1990 on it. Emulators aside this is lazy.
--- Quote ---And aside form that... seriously? You think a crappy flash game NOT done by bluth studios is going to be anywhere as good as the original? What you are basically saying right there is you want sequels, even if they are of an inferior quality.
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Did I type that? No. Bluth can hire a bunch of Koreans to produce the next DL like George Lucas does with the Clone Wars. You can have flash and keeping in house as an option. Bluth's C&D is obvious. It is his work, and he should protect it. DLLC didn't jump on the DaphneDevs and they created an outlet for DL content so it is not all doom and gloom. You just have to keep your points in context with my replies and try not to go off tangent. :police:
--- Quote ---Myst was pretty beefy back in the day and tablets (iphone excluded) don't have the greatest of specs.
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No? Well it was released on the PSX and my Galaxy S is not a powerhouse platform and it runs full speed. Dragon's Lair for Android runs in Cupcake. That is what 2009? Should I buy it again? I did. ;D
Myst is a great game, but please let us have something else in Myst IOS that would make it better (like an improved storyline or graphics) to reflect today's technology and intelligence, not COPY+PASTE lazy high school programming concepts.
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