Author Topic: Groovy Arcade Linux Live-CD, based on Arch Linux (official update) (Read 71533 times)

Ansa89 · « **Reply #160 on:** October 04, 2012, 04:01:40 am »

Quote from: Calamity on October 03, 2012, 05:14:21 pm

Now the key question is if mainline MAME 0.147, SDL, 64-bit, has proper sound or not.

I will try ASAP.

Monkee · « **Reply #161 on:** December 10, 2012, 04:26:30 pm »

Hi guys, I'm so impressed by the work you've done !

Thanks so much for sharing it.

I have some questions and I hope they will not be useless:

Why did you removed Wah!Cade ? I really like this front-end and it will be nice to have both options, no ?
Is M.E.S.S. incorporated in Groovy Arcade and if not is it possible to add it manually ?

Thanks a lot and good luck for this beautiful project !

Calamity · « **Reply #162 on:** December 13, 2012, 07:57:12 am »

Hi Monkee,

Wah'Cade was not removed as far as I now, you just need to set it up manually. As for MESS, yes, we have GroovyUME added, which is a combined build of MAME and MESS.

Monkee · « **Reply #163 on:** December 13, 2012, 06:36:25 pm »

Thanks a lot Calamity for the explanations.

I wish you the best for the future of this project (and others of course).

jswagner · « **Reply #164 on:** December 14, 2012, 04:12:18 am »

Hey guys, this seems like a cool project!

I just did a clean installation with the ISO from June. Occasionally, I can get it to boot into the menu (usually the first boot after the install), but more often, I get this:

I can watch the system startup, and I can briefly see X initializing before the video mode switches. The machine will sit with a black screen up while intermittently thrashing the disk. After a while, I will either get a screenful of garbage (uninitalized video RAM?) or a call trace printed to the terminal. The keyboard's lock lights won't toggle on/off, but I can press the power button to trigger a shut down. I can even SSH in remotely while in this state.

Here's a photo of the crash:

Relevant bits from kernel.log: http://pastebin.com/MZ9BC6C5
lspci output: http://pastebin.com/NNdgRk7G

I'm not sure what other information would be useful here, so if this isn't enough, let me know.

jswagner · « **Reply #165 on:** December 14, 2012, 05:09:15 am »

When it does work, I can't get either AdvanceMenuPlus or Wah!Cade to recognize my ROMs.. They're .7z format, but Wah!Cade allows me to specify that, and even after manually browsing to the ROM path and selecting it, it still refuses to import anything. Any ideas there?

Calamity · « **Reply #166 on:** December 14, 2012, 02:24:16 pm »

Hi jswagner,

Try disabling the splash screen, either by pressing escape when the system shows it, or do it permanently by editing grub.conf. I have the same issue here, we're working on it.

No idea about the .7z issue.

jswagner · « **Reply #167 on:** December 14, 2012, 07:27:36 pm »

Quote from: Calamity on December 14, 2012, 02:24:16 pm

Hi jswagner,

Try disabling the splash screen, either by pressing escape when the system shows it, or do it permanently by editing grub.conf. I have the same issue here, we're working on it.

No idea about the .7z issue.

Hey Calamity, thanks for your reply. I got to spend a few more minutes troubleshooting my system today and was able to produce a cleaner crash from X (segmentation fault), so I think I've got hardware issues on my side.

I'll dig up some compatible RAM, try again and report back later.

jswagner · « **Reply #168 on:** December 14, 2012, 07:38:47 pm »

I was thinking about this project last night and was wondering what's keeping the individual components from being posted to Arch's AUR?

There are packages for custom kernels and alternate MAME builds already in the AUR, and using something like 'yaourt' could make keeping current very easy for end users.

For example, I saw there was a SwitchRes update the other day, but I haven't got the foggiest idea how I could get it onto this system (I guess I'd need to manually compile it, potentially overwriting the existing version). It looks like a big rewrite that's more for testing than stable use, so it'd be nice to be able just install the 'switchres-wip' package, and fallback on the old 'switchres' package if I ran into big issues.

Thoughts?

(Sorry if I'm getting the details mixed up -- I'm not entirely sure if SwitchRes is compiled into MAME, or is an external utility.. from my perspective, it doesn't really matter. The question is "would someone be interested in putting GrooveArcade packages into the AUR?")

Calamity · « **Reply #169 on:** December 15, 2012, 02:00:01 pm »

Hi jswagner,

There's work going on during the last weeks to have an updated Live-CD, hopefully your issue is solved by the new kernel.

I don't think there's nothing that prevents the components from being posted to Arch's AUR. It's just that nobody's done it. I'm not a Linux user, I didn't know about the AUR until you mentioned

I guess that it's just a circumstantial fact that the live-cd is now Arch's based, as it was originally based on Gentoo. The live-cd is currently mantained by VeS, while I'm updating the SwitchRes patch for GM, and helping VeS with specific tasks, so there are just two persons actively coding on this (since Chris left the project), apart from the work of the testers here. It can be a bit overwhelming, and I just wish I have some time to write a proper documentation before real life gets really real.

jswagner · « **Reply #170 on:** December 15, 2012, 06:57:38 pm »

Quote from: Calamity on December 15, 2012, 02:00:01 pm

Hi jswagner,

There's work going on during the last weeks to have an updated Live-CD, hopefully your issue is solved by the new kernel.

I don't think there's nothing that prevents the components from being posted to Arch's AUR. It's just that nobody's done it. I'm not a Linux user, I didn't know about the AUR until you mentioned I guess that it's just a circumstantial fact that the live-cd is now Arch's based, as it was originally based on Gentoo. The live-cd is currently mantained by VeS, while I'm updating the SwitchRes patch for GM, and helping VeS with specific tasks, so there are just two persons actively coding on this (since Chris left the project), apart from the work of the testers here. It can be a bit overwhelming, and I just wish I have some time to write a proper documentation before real life gets really real.

I'm in the middle of learning how to publish a package to the AUR (unrelated software project). Maybe once that's finished, I can give you guys a hand here. Doing this could alleviate the need to package and distribute a Live CD -- users can just grab the official Arch ISO, install Arch, install Yaourt, install Groovy* packages from AUR. A wiki could guide users through it (and customize as desired).

Though I may not have a firm grip on the inner workings of these apps yet, part of my job is writing technical documentation. Let me know if I can be of any help!

Ansa89 · « **Reply #171 on:** December 16, 2012, 04:16:05 am »

This could be a good idea.
For the pkgbuild you can look my script.

Ansa89 · « **Reply #172 on:** December 17, 2012, 09:16:12 am »

Communication for linux users: here you can find the 15KHz patches for linux 3.7.

Monkee · « **Reply #173 on:** December 19, 2012, 07:36:03 pm »

Hi guys,
I plan to buy some wiimote to play gun games on groovyarcade and I'd like to ask you some informations to be sure to make the right choice:

Do we need a bluetooth dongle in the pc and a sensor bar on the tv to use this fonction ?
Do the Wii MotionPlus/ Wii Remote Plus works on this system ?

Did anyone tried to see if the BigBen Walther P99 replica gun that incorporates the wiimote system inside(https://www.amazon.co.uk/bigben-BigBen-Walther-P99-Wii/dp/B0041NWAT6) or even the Guncon3 are working ?

Thanks a lot.
Monkee

Calamity · « **Reply #174 on:** December 21, 2012, 06:19:06 am »

I've asked VeS about this:

Quote from: Monkee on December 19, 2012, 07:36:03 pm

Do we need a bluetooth dongle in the pc and a sensor bar on the tv to use this fonction ?

Yes, you need both.

Quote

Do the Wii MotionPlus/ Wii Remote Plus works on this system ?

Yes, both have been tested successfully.

Quote

Did anyone tried to see if the BigBen Walther P99 replica gun that incorporates the wiimote system inside(https://www.amazon.co.uk/bigben-BigBen-Walther-P99-Wii/dp/B0041NWAT6) or even the Guncon3 are working ?

As far as I understand, any gun that incorporates the wiimote should work.

NightSprinter · « **Reply #175 on:** January 21, 2013, 11:58:32 pm »

Having a lot of derp moments here. I'm trying to install a few bits of additional software (WINE to run a few arcade/arcade-style games that are only on Windows), native games, and additional emulators. Somehow when I try to install the requirements for some things, I end up somehow erasing everything on the install. I'm a bit confused here. Calamity, ves, what am I doing wrong? (I had somewhat similar issues in the Gentoo version as well).

NightSprinter · « **Reply #176 on:** February 03, 2013, 10:38:37 am »

Got the OS updated (though.. not sure if I was "supposed" to do that, despite wine and a few other things would refuse to install otherwise). For some reason now I get the exact same issue as I did using the patched radeon drivers when playing with Ubuntu:

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SwitchRes: [alienar] (1) horizontal (292x240@60.10)->(296x240@60.10)
X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
  Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (RRCreateMode)
  Serial number of failed request:  39
  Current serial number in output stream:  39
X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  151 (XFree86-VidModeExtension)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  10 (XF86VidModeSwitchToMode)
  Value in failed request:  0x150
  Serial number of failed request:  135
  Current serial number in output stream:  137

I am quite confuse now, but I will state the specs of my test bed:

CPU: Intel Core2Quad Q6600
RAM: 4GB DDR2-800 Corsair XMS2
Motherboard: XFX nForce680i SLI-LT
GPU: XFX Radeon 6670 1GB
Monitor: NEC MultiSync XM29 Plus (Model XM2960, will look into entering monitor infos from the one thread I looked at into switchres.conf and test that).
Running xf86-driver-ati-git from the Arch User Repository

Let me know if something is missing (other than a parallel port card for OpenPPJoy).

Calamity · « **Reply #177 on:** February 03, 2013, 11:44:19 am »

Hi NightSprinter,

By updating the drivers you must have overridden the specific patch for low resolutions. There's a workaround however, define a higher minimum dotclock so that low resolutions are width scaled, add this to mame.ini:

dotclock_min 8.0

jswagner · « **Reply #178 on:** February 04, 2013, 12:54:38 am »

Tried searching the forum and also Google, but only found the dead old project page. Where can I find a list of supported video cards?

EDIT: Let me rephrase this to make it easier to answer. I'm thinking about replacing my existing system with a low-power AMD system with on-chip (ATI) graphics, will this work with GroovyArcade?

Calamity · « **Reply #179 on:** February 04, 2013, 05:23:55 am »

Quote from: jswagner on February 04, 2013, 12:54:38 am

Tried searching the forum and also Google, but only found the dead old project page. Where can I find a list of supported video cards?

EDIT: Let me rephrase this to make it easier to answer. I'm thinking about replacing my existing system with a low-power AMD system with on-chip (ATI) graphics, will this work with GroovyArcade?

If it's Linux what you have in mind, anything from Radeon 7000 to the date should be good.

NightSprinter · « **Reply #180 on:** February 04, 2013, 10:58:41 am »

Yeah, I'm actually currently in the process (given my time away from work) of working out how to have an up-to-date install of MESA and the open-source drivers (which is a requirement along with the patched kernel, might patch/compile the 3.7 on Arch and see how that goes) on a Radeon 6670 (good comprimise between speed and functionality).

I'm no linux guru, but I'll continue to post my findings here or in another thread I have in the Linux forum.

jswagner · « **Reply #181 on:** February 04, 2013, 03:20:11 pm »

Quote from: Calamity on February 04, 2013, 05:23:55 am

If it's Linux what you have in mind, anything from Radeon 7000 to the date should be good.

OK, great! I was afraid only specific models were compatible.

emuola · « **Reply #182 on:** February 06, 2013, 04:24:02 am »

I noticed that my GA-system suffers from this way old kernel bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=845745

On a cold boot the computer often hangs, but with rebooting it boots just fine.

There's a workaround for this, but I'm not sure if it presents some problems concerning kms booting with an arcade monitor:

Quote

I've added nomodeset in GRUB2's command line (using GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub) and the following to /etc/rc.d/rc.local:
modprobe -r radeon
modprobe -r drm
modprobe radeon modeset=1

I haven't tried that workaround just yet, but as the next version of the LiveCd has been promised pretty soon, I thought I'll post this here anyway.

Has this been documented/discussed here somewhere?

Calamity · « **Reply #183 on:** February 06, 2013, 10:21:00 am »

Thanks for reporting this, emuola.

Monkee · « **Reply #184 on:** February 06, 2013, 03:47:46 pm »

Hi, I'm sorry but I'm a bit lost with the download page of GroovyArcade. $:-\$

How to know what the "non-groovyarcade" downloads means ? For example, do I need to add (and how) the new advmenuPlus2.6 or xorg.sh to my GroovyArcade USB Stick ?

Concerning the different releases of GroovyArcade, is it possible to set an auto-update for each final (or beta) version of Mame or Ume ? Or do I have to reinstall it all each time ?

Thanks a lot and sorry again for the newbie's questions...

Monkee

Rockman · « **Reply #185 on:** February 07, 2013, 01:47:24 am »

Hi.

@Emuola: It's possible your problem are related with integrated video cards. Your Motherboard have integrated VGA card? I have similar problems with one PC with that.

@Monkee: Are not necessary to update xorg.sh, It's only a devs test file. The AdvmenuPlus2.6 file is a new version of the Front end. This version will be included in the new release of the GroovyArcade LiveCD.

Regards.

emuola · « **Reply #186 on:** February 07, 2013, 04:21:47 am »

Quote from: Rockman on February 07, 2013, 01:47:24 am

Hi.

@Emuola: It's possible your problem are related with integrated video cards. Your Motherboard have integrated VGA card? I have similar problems with one PC with that.

Regards.

Indeed, my Optiplex 745 has the Q965 chipset with integrated vga. I had not thought of that... I haven't tried the bios settings, because the pci-e x600 overrides the integrated automatically. How did you solve your problem with the integrated vga? If there's no option to disable the integrated vga, can I do something softwarewise?

Calamity · « **Reply #187 on:** February 07, 2013, 05:03:19 am »

Quote from: Monkee on February 06, 2013, 03:47:46 pm

How to know what the "non-groovyarcade" downloads means ? For example, do I need to add (and how) the new advmenuPlus2.6 or xorg.sh to my GroovyArcade USB Stick ?

Concerning the different releases of GroovyArcade, is it possible to set an auto-update for each final (or beta) version of Mame or Ume ? Or do I have to reinstall it all each time ?

Hi Monkee,

You don't need to add these separate downloads, they are there in case someone wants to use them, usually updates or fixes for AdvMenuPlus which is in continuous development and has produced issues.

Indeed, there's a preliminar built-in auto update feature in the gasetup menu designed to allow the user download the most recent version of GroovyMAME. The new live-cd will have this auto update feature extended and (hopefully) fully working for all relevant parts of GroovyArcade: GroovyMAME, AdvMenu, Gasetup... so you won't need to manually download and install anything.

Monkee · « **Reply #188 on:** February 07, 2013, 12:19:35 pm »

Edit.

emuola · « **Reply #189 on:** February 07, 2013, 12:29:56 pm »

Quote from: emuola on February 07, 2013, 04:21:47 am

Quote from: Rockman on February 07, 2013, 01:47:24 am
Hi.

@Emuola: It's possible your problem are related with integrated video cards. Your Motherboard have integrated VGA card? I have similar problems with one PC with that.

Regards.

Indeed, my Optiplex 745 has the Q965 chipset with integrated vga. I had not thought of that... I haven't tried the bios settings, because the pci-e x600 overrides the integrated automatically. How did you solve your problem with the integrated vga? If there's no option to disable the integrated vga, can I do something softwarewise?

I changed the settings in BIOS (to manually override the integrated graphics with the pci-e card) and now it seems the boot problems are gone

Thanks Rockman!

EDIT: I was too fast... problem still exists... After my cab had been "cold" for an hour and a half I had to boot 3 times to get the system up...

Calamity · « **Reply #190 on:** February 07, 2013, 01:21:38 pm »

In my setups I usually need to remove the splash screen in order to avoild GA hanging during boot, either by editing grub.conf or just by pressing 'esc' when the splash screen is shown.

emuola · « **Reply #191 on:** February 07, 2013, 02:02:51 pm »

Quote from: Calamity on February 07, 2013, 01:21:38 pm

In my setups I usually need to remove the splash screen in order to avoild GA hanging during boot, either by editing grub.conf or just by pressing 'esc' when the splash screen is shown.

Yes, me too, no splash here

The error in the log is always this:

conflicting fb hw usage radeondrmfb vs VESA VGA - removing generic driver

Something to do with the kms I guess, but I'm way too incompetent to figure out why

NightSprinter · « **Reply #192 on:** February 08, 2013, 11:11:08 am »

Hey, Calamity, real quick: I'm posting a log of X.org and the errors it gave with the custom modelines I put in from manual generation with switchres. Let me know what's going on here, as I'm lost as to why this is happening.

Monkee · « **Reply #193 on:** February 08, 2013, 01:06:29 pm »

Thanks a lot Rockman and Calamity.

So Calamity, with this auto-update system, is it possible to choose if you want or don't want one Release ?

For example, i never take the alpha ones and sometimes i prefer to wait between two stables releases to see if my favorite games are still working on the new one.
May I still be able to choose ?

Anyway; You guys rock, what a beautiful work you've made and still working on it. A big thanks, seriously !

Monkee

Calamity · « **Reply #194 on:** February 08, 2013, 03:38:44 pm »

Hi Monkee,

The auto-update feature consists of a list where you are shown the latest binary files available from the google code site, as read from a text file that's downloaded from that site too. So you'll be free to decide whether to update or not, and what specific updates you want to skip.

Monkee · « **Reply #195 on:** February 08, 2013, 03:40:01 pm »

Perfect ! Thanks a lot man.

NightSprinter · « **Reply #196 on:** February 09, 2013, 03:24:54 am »

Hmm, custom-building the kernel upgrade with patches and building/installing the latest version of SwitchRes didn't work out so great. Here's the logs for anyone whom can decipher.

NightSprinter · « **Reply #197 on:** February 10, 2013, 11:51:21 am »

This for Anes86, I'm throwing in some logs as the PM system doesn't seem to want to allow attachments. Hopefully this will provide some info as to what is going wrong overall. Now to hop back to XP and get a few more logs for Calamity on that end.

Calamity · « **Reply #198 on:** February 11, 2013, 06:11:59 am »

Hi NightSprinter,

The system rejecting your custom modelines could be due to your NEC monitor having a valid EDID that's reporting values not compatible with our settings. I'm assuming you applied all the patches for low-res modes to your self compiled kernel.

Have you tried booting from the GA live-cd? Does it work?
Have you tried booting with the option '-video VGA-1:640x480ec' in grub's kernel line?

Ansa89 · « **Reply #199 on:** February 11, 2013, 06:26:39 am »

Quote from: Calamity on February 11, 2013, 06:11:59 am

Have you tried booting with the option '-video VGA-1:640x480ec' in grub's kernel line?

Yes, he does.

Moreover he set the following options into "/etc/X11/xorg.conf":

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Section "Monitor"
    ...
    Option          "UseEDIDFreqs" "FALSE"
    Option          "UseEDIDDpi" "FALSE"
    ...
EndSection
...
Section "Device"
    ...
    Option          "IgnoreEDID"    "true"
    Option          "UseEDID"       "False"
    ...
EndSection


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