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| bradx:
--- Quote from: pbj on December 11, 2013, 03:46:18 pm ---He's got a family to support and there's not really a victim here, IMO. No dispute that kind of wrong doing isn't conducive to society but I certainly won't take much pleasure in seeing him receive a prolonged prison sentence. It's still kinda funny, though. --- End quote --- the victim is the public trust. its one thing to be a bootlegger, or a thief, but what he did was to sell his stuff as legal, so the people who are honest, the people who want something legit, something that isnt stolen, something that is legal, would buy from him. anyone and everyone can steal and use arcade history any way they choose. his way was to fraudulently pretend to be legit, so people looking for a legit option to mame would pay him for his product. in my mind he is no better than someone scamming old ladies for investment oppportunities or someone setting up a fraudulent charity operation. the ONLY reason people bought from him is because they believed he had the ONLY legit license to those games. |
| lilshawn:
--- Quote from: bradx on December 28, 2013, 06:10:45 am ---the victim is the public trust. its one thing to be a bootlegger, or a thief, but what he did was to sell his stuff as legal, so the people who are honest, the people who want something legit, something that isnt stolen, something that is legal, would buy from him. anyone and everyone can steal and use arcade history any way they choose. his way was to fraudulently pretend to be legit, so people looking for a legit option to mame would pay him for his product. in my mind he is no better than someone scamming old ladies for investment oppportunities or someone setting up a fraudulent charity operation. the ONLY reason people bought from him is because they believed he had the ONLY legit license to those games. --- End quote --- this lawsuit he's currently tied up in has to do with claiming he still worked for Global VR when he went to a bank (or banks) to obtain loans, when in fact he was (very) recently let go after the licencing fiasco regarding Ultracade which he had sold to Global VR. (Global found out he was making updates for the software which was now theirs, and was selling them on the side) so, he's at the bank when the bank wanted to "verify employment", he had them call a friend of his and have him state he was whoever from Global VR and that yes he was working for Global VR. The bank found out about the sham and promptly began proceedings against him. |
| Fursphere:
--- Quote from: lilshawn on December 28, 2013, 10:18:40 am --- --- Quote from: bradx on December 28, 2013, 06:10:45 am ---the victim is the public trust. its one thing to be a bootlegger, or a thief, but what he did was to sell his stuff as legal, so the people who are honest, the people who want something legit, something that isnt stolen, something that is legal, would buy from him. anyone and everyone can steal and use arcade history any way they choose. his way was to fraudulently pretend to be legit, so people looking for a legit option to mame would pay him for his product. in my mind he is no better than someone scamming old ladies for investment oppportunities or someone setting up a fraudulent charity operation. the ONLY reason people bought from him is because they believed he had the ONLY legit license to those games. --- End quote --- this lawsuit he's currently tied up in has to do with claiming he still worked for Global VR when he went to a bank (or banks) to obtain loans, when in fact he was (very) recently let go after the licencing fiasco regarding Ultracade which he had sold to Global VR. (Global found out he was making updates for the software which was now theirs, and was selling them on the side) so, he's at the bank when the bank wanted to "verify employment", he had them call a friend of his and have him state he was whoever from Global VR and that yes he was working for Global VR. The bank found out about the sham and promptly began proceedings against him. --- End quote --- I spent about three years working as an Underwriting Quality Control person in a "Fraud Detection and prevention" department at a major bank. I used to catch stuff like this all the time. Like - daily. Doing background checks, digging into credit reports, etc. It was fun but stressful stuff. People would make paycheck stubs in MS Word and try to pass them off as legit. Have there brother's girlfriends sounds uncle verify employment that didn't exist. All sorts of crazy stuff. Sometimes small loads, sometimes big loans. But I never saw one person I caught outright committing fraud prosecuted or sued. He must have really pissed someone off to get them to actually take him to court over it. |
| BadMouth:
--- Quote from: Fursphere on December 28, 2013, 10:52:51 am --- --- Quote from: lilshawn on December 28, 2013, 10:18:40 am --- --- Quote from: bradx on December 28, 2013, 06:10:45 am ---the victim is the public trust. its one thing to be a bootlegger, or a thief, but what he did was to sell his stuff as legal, so the people who are honest, the people who want something legit, something that isnt stolen, something that is legal, would buy from him. anyone and everyone can steal and use arcade history any way they choose. his way was to fraudulently pretend to be legit, so people looking for a legit option to mame would pay him for his product. in my mind he is no better than someone scamming old ladies for investment oppportunities or someone setting up a fraudulent charity operation. the ONLY reason people bought from him is because they believed he had the ONLY legit license to those games. --- End quote --- this lawsuit he's currently tied up in has to do with claiming he still worked for Global VR when he went to a bank (or banks) to obtain loans, when in fact he was (very) recently let go after the licencing fiasco regarding Ultracade which he had sold to Global VR. (Global found out he was making updates for the software which was now theirs, and was selling them on the side) so, he's at the bank when the bank wanted to "verify employment", he had them call a friend of his and have him state he was whoever from Global VR and that yes he was working for Global VR. The bank found out about the sham and promptly began proceedings against him. --- End quote --- I spent about three years working as an Underwriting Quality Control person in a "Fraud Detection and prevention" department at a major bank. I used to catch stuff like this all the time. Like - daily. Doing background checks, digging into credit reports, etc. It was fun but stressful stuff. People would make paycheck stubs in MS Word and try to pass them off as legit. Have there brother's girlfriends sounds uncle verify employment that didn't exist. All sorts of crazy stuff. Sometimes small loads, sometimes big loans. But I never saw one person I caught outright committing fraud prosecuted or sued. He must have really pissed someone off to get them to actually take him to court over it. --- End quote --- In the papers he filed to ask for leniency, he says that the bank never did take issue with it and he still has the loan and has made all payments. He claims the guy who was in charge at Global VR at the time has a personal vendetta against him and sicked the FBI on him for both selling Ultracade gamepacks and lying about his employment during closing. I dunno, but that's what is there. |
| pbj:
I really doubt that some lackey from Global VR controls the resources of the FBI. :cheers: |
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