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Newbie...Need Diagrams of DC & PSX Controllers
hyiu:
Hi Rei...
the plastic boxes are from Radio Shack.... then I use knife and cut opening.... (or you can drill too...) those boxes are pretty good... but they are expensive... they're like $5 each !!!! (just plastic box !!!)
ps: they come in a lot of sizes....
those cables are cat5 eternet cables... (network cables) whatever you want to call it.... it has 8 different wires per cable... I use it because of 2 reasons.... I have extra in the house... and unlike plugs with pins... this are more fool proof.... you can bent a pin... but you can't really mess up the plug/snap cat5....
if you look at the joystick pics, you'll see there's a white box... that is actually a dual cat 5 jack... each jack can take 2 cat 5 cable... (16 connections...) for my joysticks... I have 8 buttons, select, start, 4 directions, and ground.. so, that is 15 connections... I made the extra ground also, so, I can have ground on each cat5 line....
http://store.yahoo.com/deepsurplus/catidcdualsu.html
this link is where I bought the dual cat 5....
what is happening is... all the buttons/joysticks are connected to that dual network jack.... (in a particular order).... then I just have to wire the interface (could be sidewinder/psx pad/... etc) in that same order.... then I can just snap them together.... (kind of like a homemade adaptor.....) this way, I can re-use the joystick hardware..... and save some $$...
So far, the pc ones and the psx ones are working perfectly.... when I'm done with my other stuffs, I'll come back and do a xbox one....
btw... a couple of those sticks if you recognized are actually converted from Mas stick.....
hope I answered your question... ;D ;D
good luck....
ps: I've returned the borrowed digi cam.... :P
when I got my hands on it again.. probably after July 4... I'll post more pics..... >:(
rei:
Thanks for the info hyiu. Some background, a couple of questions more questions. This post also has some links that Hellfromabove might find interesting.
I'm heavily into Capcom games, and Dreamcast EMU.
I tried out the MAS stick, and didn't like it. (felt beta) I currently have a CigarBob stick at my house, but it doesn't support the analog controls, and as a result I can't play a few of the emus (specifically DreamSNES) and so I am looking for an alternative, and the Magic 8 ball says to build it myself. If it weren't for the analog not working, The CigarBob sticks are awesome.
Cigarbobs site: http://www.geocities.com/cigarbob0/
(I have the CBC2pS with japanese controls.)
I was going to check out the SavSticks:
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3s8p2/
But it turns out that they don't support analog either. On the other hand, I love the way they have their sticks set up. (....and they have a waiting list right now.)
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/staff/bahn/pics/savstick3.jpg
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/staff/bahn/pics/savstick4.jpg
So my goal is to build something with the 2p desk setup of the Sav sticks in the pics above, but including analog like the MAS sticks.
I am using this as my guide:
http://home.cfl.rr.com/expression/joystick-dc.html
I do like the idea of having a universal interface on the arcade controller like hyiu's pics. It would save money in the long run. Do you have a wiring diagram for that? Or should I just make my own? If I just make my own wiring setup, do you have any advice that would help me avoid simple problems that I don't know are there?
Thanks again.
tom61:
To hack the analog of Dreamcast and PSX pads, you need to apply the directions on the Dreamcast2Jamma page dealing with the L and R triggers to each of the four directions of the analog stick.
hyiu:
Hi Rei:
thanx for your links on your posts... that Sav Stick's graphics is NICE !!!..... if you look back into my pics directory... his design is actually quite similar to my nice stick one... he hides the screws on the joystick mount... but his artwork cover is Awesome !!!... (sorry... don't really mean to compare..... :P )
as for digital / analog.... so far... I have no clue how to hack a analog stick... or do an anaog interface....
like the DC link you have ... that guy is also hacking the direction pad, but not the analog stick.... which means the outcome will be digital.....
like my psx hack.... it'll play fine on vf4... but if you uses it to play a driving game, I bet it'll play, but the control will suck big time.....
when I have more time, I'll play around with an xbox pad.... but the first hack will be mainly back to the digital stick again... cos my friends and I love fighting games....
but I'll see if I can hack the analog buttons... etc...
as for wiring instructions.... I don't really have a diagram.... you can use any kind of connectors you want... (a lot of people simply use printer cables... because 1 plug has a lot of pins.... you'll just have to come up with your conventions... and be consistent with it, then it'll be ok.... but since my hacks are all digital so far... I have not encountered any real pblms.... so, don't have much to share....
but if you have particular questions, you can let me know... I'll try to answer them....
hope I answered your questions... ;D ;D
rei:
--- Quote ---To hack the analog of Dreamcast and PSX pads, you need to apply the directions on the Dreamcast2Jamma page dealing with the L and R triggers to each of the four directions of the analog stick.
--- End quote ---
Tom61:
Looking into the DC2Jamma page, they say just to hack up the analog so that it will be an essentially digital control. Since most of my emus just use the analog pad as a "select" button, would I be able to wire all four directions to one button (select)? Or would it be a better idea to include a switch that lets me use one joystick for both the analog and the digital controls? Maybe combine both of the above ideas?
hyiu:
I do like the graphics on the Sav, and when you order from them, they as for you to email them a 15x10 image of your choice to put on it. Or they can custom make you an image if you want. Makes those cost about 4 dollars more than MAS sticks. Now I'm adding a spool of cat5 cable to my list of things I need to build this puppy. (and buying a spool will allow for future projects)