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iMAME Arcade Emulator Hits the App Store (For Now)
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Haze:

--- Quote from: Donkbaca on December 30, 2011, 11:19:05 am ---I'm fine with the industry being destroyed as we know it.  I don't care who owns what or runs what as long as I can get what I want cheap and easy


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Well, with Apple running things you almost certainly wouldn't be able to.  If you throw brick walls in the way of developers doing things for free you get less developers, simple, and actual security measures will continue to get stronger until you simply *can't* jailbreak the things.  The amount of research being done in such areas vs. other ones is obscene, because that's where the money is.
Donkbaca:
really?  I thought you got legitimate along with black and gray markets that cater to what consumers want....
Haze:
Well you only have your black and grey markets on current systems because they can be cracked / jailbroken to run apps outside of Apple's control.

Note, the DMCA exception made it legal to Jailbreak the phones, it didn't make it a legal requirement for them to be possible to jailbreak.

As security gets better, and development tools improve / automatically warn against / prevent the most common vulnerabilities etc. you'll start to find less ways into these devices in cases where the manufacturers don't want you to have access.

The end result will be every app has to be approved, can be withdrawn (even from your phone) at any point (most can already do this, but it hasn't been widely used yet)  For developers this means in order for other users to run your app it will have to go through an approval process, and be signed, usually at cost.

You won't be able to produce anything which might compete with official software available on the platform (we've already seen this many times over, with Apple copying functionality of apps then killing them from the store because they duplicate functionality already in the new version of the system, even if people have to pay / upgrade their phones to use that!)  You also won't find anything they don't want there (such as emulators)

Note, that is how Apple want things to be, and if you really think they'll exert less control once they had a completely 'secure' system then I'm simply going to sit here and laugh at you. (note they always refer to patches to close ways to Jailbreak their systems as 'security updates for your benefit')  They want complete control over the market, then want a cut of everything developed and sold.

In such an environment a project like MAME would never have even got off the ground, you'd have been unable to establish any kind of developer base, developers would be out of pocket, and the app would just end up getting pulled anyway, Apple don't even allow basic interpretors for fear somebody could code their own games in them, bypassing the store concept; that was the whole reason some of the older speccy / c64 emus got pulled, people found a way to access BASIC in them!

The only reason you have things as you do now is because of the openness and freedom of the PC desktop as a development platform on which anybody can write code, and anybody can run said code.  Unfortunately with Windows 8 even Microsoft are taking a step away from that, the 'new' interface (modelled on phones no less) is locked down.  Thankfully the old interface remains, for now, but it does make me wonder, how long will it be before you can only take full advantage of the PC hardware if you're running under the new system?.  Having an open platform is pretty much useless if you only have crippled access to the hardware (see PS3 linux before it was pulled altogether)

It's a worrying situation, and while alternative approaches are popping up (Google's Native Platform etc.) those are sandboxed environments which severely cripple what you can do when it comes to performance code etc.  Note in the said port to the Google platform the Dynamic recompilers etc. in MAME had to be disabled simply because you can't do that there (would allow too many easy exploits)

This Apple / phone influenced technology path is not a good thing for anybody, except commercial vendors, and even then you get screwed over at the whim of the company in charge and with the patent wars raging nothing is safe.

As 'cool' as the i gadgets appear to be (and I've never even seen that, you've always paid more for less functionality and lower specs) the trend being set by them is probably the biggest threat to general computing since it's conception.
Space Fractal:
I think this typic is going very much offtypic now and should been closed. Typical Apple hateboys.
SirPeale:

--- Quote from: Space Fractal on December 31, 2011, 07:58:46 am ---I think this typic is going very much offtypic now and should been closed. Typical Apple hateboys.

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Nah - unless the discussion resorts to personal attacks. 
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