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Vigo:
Talking Price, plasma is usually best value for low cost. You can get a large plasma TV for very cheap, and it looks good. The fact that the plasmas are 720 usually doesn't always mean as much as you would think, they still look great. A cheap LCD will look like trash. It will not achieve those cinematic colors and you will have paid more for a worse looking set.
If you really want to put forth the money on a good TV, go with a nice, name brand quality LCD. It will be overall superior in every way. If you want a cheap TV and still pass as an awesome looking set, go with plasma. Also, with plasma, keep in mind it does have burn in. Nothing permanent unless you really leave it on a static image for days, but it can still get annoying with video games when you can see the HUD showing after you are done playing a game.
pointdablame:
I've got to chime in here -- there's a lot of bad assumptions and just wrong data in this thread already.
How exactly is it hard to find a "full HD" plasma?? There is no shortage of 1080p plasma screens on the market, from a ton of reputable companies. Go to any store, online or in person, and you will find 1080p plasmas just as you will LCD and LED.
Saying something so general as "LED>LCD>Plasma" is stupid. There are a ton of low end and old tech LCD panels that will not hold a candle to Plasma screens. In many ways, the tech behind it has little to do with the quality of the TV... you need to research the actual panels used in the displays and the individual picture quality of sets you're interested in. Black levels on Plasmas are still the best, in my personal opinion, and are only recently being rivaled by LED lit LCD panels. LCDs will typically not have black levels anywhere near Plasmas or LED. Whether that matters to you depends on your viewing habits. Color reproduction is an entirely different, yet related, discusson as well. I'd say that new LED tech typically has better color reproduction than both plasma and LCD, but there are always exceptions.
Also.... in case someone chimes in here about plasma burn-in, I assure you they are about 10 years behind the time. Burn-in is not an issue on any quality plasma panel that is watched in a typical fashion these days. Half life of the gases is also a non-issue as you'll replace the set long before you face that problem. Altitude issues are true, so if you're above 6000ft above sea level, don't get a plasma.
Go to a good store and find some sets you like. More important than online opinions (including mine) and reviews, are how you perceive picture quality, especially colors. You may find that you really like the way Sony colors look compared to Samsung, or vice versa, and you'll only notice that when you see them in person. Most companies (and tech) have a certain "feel" to their picture quality and you need to know what looks best to you.
I've owned all 3 types of TVs, and currently have a 50" Samsung plasma (1080p) and a 46" LED. I've owned 3 LCD (non LED) panels in the past from various companies. You need to go check things out in person. I personally think that Samsung's colors look "best" to my eyes so I've stuck to them. Find what looks best to you and then look into specific models. Compare those models against each other and against your use cases (enough HDMI ports? proper settings? calibration options if you're going to dig into that world, etc)
Vigo:
Yeah, just to clarify my post, because PDB is right, plasmas come in 1080, but when I mentioned 720 plasmas, I was referring to the plasmas that are readily much cheaper than just about any equivalent LCD.
--- Quote from: pointdablame on December 21, 2011, 06:25:07 pm ---Also.... in case someone chimes in here about plasma burn-in, I assure you they are about 10 years behind the time. Burn-in is not an issue on any quality plasma panel that is watched in a typical fashion these days. Half life of the gases is also a non-issue as you'll replace the set long before you face that problem. Altitude issues are true, so if you're above 6000ft above sea level, don't get a plasma.
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I did chime about burn-in earlier, but I think I need to chime in more. I don't know if there is a specific term for it, but the burn-in I was talking about is very short term....Like you play a game with a static image on it for a couple hours, then watch tv. The image will ghost there for a few minutes. My wife left on a marathon of NCIS on for a whole day, and the USA channel logo burned into the screen. That took a couple days to wear off, but again nothing permanent.
Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: pointdablame on December 21, 2011, 06:25:07 pm ---
Saying something so general as "LED>LCD>Plasma" is stupid.
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Not any stupider than claiming that plasma is in any way a wise invesment in this day and age.
Arguably they can have a better color contrast than a bargain basement bin lcd and it might be cheaper, but there are tons of negatives to owning plasma that I won't get into here.
We have to make some generalizations or else we won't be helpful. And in general, with cost taken out of the equation LED>LCD>Plasma.
Let's put it this way, when you take 3 comparable tvs, one of them plasma, one of them lcd, and one of them led, there is a reason that the led will be the most expensive and the plasma will be the cheapest. Sometimes you get what you pay for.
Personally I like LCDs, right now they are in the "sweet spot" until the price of LED tvs go down. 80-90% of the consumers out there who buy a new tv buy a LCD and there is a reason for that. ;)
pointdablame:
--- Quote from: Vigo on December 21, 2011, 11:45:42 pm ---Yeah, just to clarify my post, because PDB is right, plasmas come in 1080, but when I mentioned 720 plasmas, I was referring to the plasmas that are readily much cheaper than just about any equivalent LCD.
--- Quote from: pointdablame on December 21, 2011, 06:25:07 pm ---Also.... in case someone chimes in here about plasma burn-in, I assure you they are about 10 years behind the time. Burn-in is not an issue on any quality plasma panel that is watched in a typical fashion these days. Half life of the gases is also a non-issue as you'll replace the set long before you face that problem. Altitude issues are true, so if you're above 6000ft above sea level, don't get a plasma.
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I did chime about burn-in earlier, but I think I need to chime in more. I don't know if there is a specific term for it, but the burn-in I was talking about is very short term....Like you play a game with a static image on it for a couple hours, then watch tv. The image will ghost there for a few minutes. My wife left on a marathon of NCIS on for a whole day, and the USA channel logo burned into the screen. That took a couple days to wear off, but again nothing permanent.
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Yeah, that is called Image Retention and is very different than burn in. Burn in is a permanent burn to the screen -- think old school rear projection TVs with Fox logos permanently burned in.
Even with modern day plasma tech, Image Retention can be seen. If you play a game for a long stretch or keep a static screen, you will see IR for a few seconds. In my experiences with my plasma, it's pretty rare, but it will depend heavily on how you use the TV. When I have seen it on my set, it goes away after 10-20 seconds of displaying a different picture. If that will bother you at all, then steer clear of plasma.
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