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Monitor presets
« on: November 21, 2011, 12:18:51 pm »
Monitor presets built in GroovyMAME & VMMaker (November 2017)

Format: -crt_range 0-9   HfreqMin-HfreqMax, VfreqMin-VfreqMax, HFrontPorch, HSyncPulse, HBackPorch, VfrontPorch, VSyncPulse, VBackPorch, HSyncPol, VSyncPol, ProgressiveLinesMin, ProgressiveLinesMax, InterlacedLinesMin, InterlacedLinesMax
Notes:
  • To use one of the built-in presets, use it by its name in the monitor option of mame.ini, e.g.: monitor generic_15
  • To use a custom preset, use the keyword custom as the monitor name in mame.ini (monitor custom), then fill in the required crt_range lines
  • Then crt_range lines shown below are the ones used internally by GroovyMAME for each monitor preset. You don't need to declare them explicitely. They're just provided as a starting point to readjust existing presets.

   // PAL TV - 50 Hz/625
   pal
   
      crt_range0  15625.00-15625.00, 50.00-50.00, 1.500, 4.700, 5.800, 0.064, 0.160, 1.056, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      
   
   // NTSC TV - 60 Hz/525
   ntsc
   
      crt_range0  15734.26-15734.26, 59.94-59.94, 1.500, 4.700, 4.700, 0.191, 0.191, 0.953, 0, 0, 192, 240, 448, 480
      
   
   // Generic 15.7 kHz
   generic_15
   
      crt_range0  15625-15750, 49.50-65.00, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      
   
   // Arcade 15.7 kHz - standard resolution
   arcade_15
   
      crt_range0  15625-16200, 49.50-65.00, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      
   
   // Arcade 15.7-16.5 kHz - extended resolution
   arcade_15ex
   
      crt_range0  15625-16500, 49.50-65.00, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      
   
   // Arcade 25.0 kHz - medium resolution
   arcade_25
   
      crt_range0  24960-24960, 49.50-65.00, 0.800, 4.000, 3.200, 0.080, 0.200, 1.000, 0, 0, 384, 400, 768, 800
      
   
   // Arcade 31.5 kHz - medium resolution
   arcade_31
   
      crt_range0  31400-31500, 49.50-65.00, 0.940, 3.770, 1.890, 0.349, 0.064, 1.017, 0, 0, 400, 512, 0, 0
      
   
   // Arcade 15.7/25.0 kHz - dual-sync
   arcade_15_25
   
      crt_range0  15625-16200, 49.50-65.00, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      crt_range1  24960-24960, 49.50-65.00, 0.800, 4.000, 3.200, 0.080, 0.200, 1.000, 0, 0, 384, 400, 768, 800


   // Arcade 15.7/31.5 kHz - dual-sync
   arcade_15_31

      crt_range0  15625-16200, 49.50-65.00, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      crt_range1  31400-31500, 49.50-65.00, 0.940, 3.770, 1.890, 0.349, 0.064, 1.017, 0, 0, 384, 480, 0, 0

         
   // Arcade 15.7/25.0/31.5 kHz - tri-sync
   arcade_15_25_31
   
      crt_range0  15625-16200, 49.50-65.00, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      crt_range1  24960-24960, 49.50-65.00, 0.800, 4.000, 3.200, 0.080, 0.200, 1.000, 0, 0, 384, 400, 768, 800
      crt_range2  31400-31500, 49.50-65.00, 0.940, 3.770, 1.890, 0.349, 0.064, 1.017, 0, 0, 400, 512, 0, 0
      
   
   // Makvision 2929D
   m2929
   
      crt_range0  30000-40000, 47.00-90.00, 0.600, 2.500, 2.800, 0.032, 0.096, 0.448, 0, 0, 384, 640, 0, 0
      
   
   // Wells Gardner D9800, D9400
   d9800, d9400
   
      crt_range0  15250-18000, 40-80, 2.187, 4.688, 6.719, 0.190, 0.191, 1.018, 0, 0, 224, 288, 448, 576
      crt_range1  18001-19000, 40-80, 2.187, 4.688, 6.719, 0.140, 0.191, 0.950, 0, 0, 288, 320, 0, 0
      crt_range2  20501-29000, 40-80, 2.910, 3.000, 4.440, 0.451, 0.164, 1.048, 0, 0, 320, 384, 0, 0
      crt_range3  29001-32000, 40-80, 0.636, 3.813, 1.906, 0.318, 0.064, 1.048, 0, 0, 384, 480, 0, 0
      crt_range4  32001-34000, 40-80, 0.636, 3.813, 1.906, 0.020, 0.106, 0.607, 0, 0, 480, 576, 0, 0
      crt_range5  34001-38000, 40-80, 1.000, 3.200, 2.200, 0.020, 0.106, 0.607, 0, 0, 576, 600, 0, 0
      
   
   // Wells Gardner D9200
   d9200
   
      crt_range0  15250-16500, 40-80, 2.187, 4.688, 6.719, 0.190, 0.191, 1.018, 0, 0, 224, 288, 448, 576
      crt_range1  23900-24420, 40-80, 2.910, 3.000, 4.440, 0.451, 0.164, 1.148, 0, 0, 384, 400, 0, 0
      crt_range2  31000-32000, 40-80, 0.636, 3.813, 1.906, 0.318, 0.064, 1.048, 0, 0, 400, 512, 0, 0
      crt_range3  37000-38000, 40-80, 1.000, 3.200, 2.200, 0.020, 0.106, 0.607, 0, 0, 512, 600, 0, 0
      
   
   // Wells Gardner K7000
   k7000
   
      crt_range0  15625-15800, 49.50-63.00, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.160, 1.056, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      
   
   // Wells Gardner 25K7131
   k7131
   
      crt_range0  15625-16670, 49.5-65, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.160, 1.056, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      
   
   // Wei-Ya M3129
   m3129
   
      crt_range0  15250-16500, 40-80, 2.187, 4.688, 6.719, 0.190, 0.191, 1.018, 1, 1, 192, 288, 448, 576
      crt_range1  23900-24420, 40-80, 2.910, 3.000, 4.440, 0.451, 0.164, 1.048, 1, 1, 384, 400, 0, 0
      crt_range2  31000-32000, 40-80, 0.636, 3.813, 1.906, 0.318, 0.064, 1.048, 1, 1, 400, 512, 0, 0
      
   
   // Hantarex MTC 9110, Hantarex Polo
   h9110, polo
   
      crt_range0  15625-16670, 49.5-65, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.160, 1.056, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      
   
   // Hantarex Polostar 25
   pstar
   
      crt_range0  15700-15800, 50-65, 1.800, 0.400, 7.400, 0.064, 0.160, 1.056, 0, 0, 192, 256, 0, 0
      crt_range1  16200-16300, 50-65, 0.200, 0.400, 8.000, 0.040, 0.040, 0.640, 0, 0, 256, 264, 512, 528
      crt_range2  25300-25400, 50-65, 0.200, 0.400, 8.000, 0.040, 0.040, 0.640, 0, 0, 384, 400, 768, 800
      crt_range3  31500-31600, 50-65, 0.170, 0.350, 5.500, 0.040, 0.040, 0.640, 0, 0, 400, 512, 0, 0
      
   
   // Nanao MS-2930, MS-2931
   ms2930
   
      crt_range0  15450-16050, 50-65, 3.190, 4.750, 6.450, 0.191, 0.191, 1.164, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      crt_range1  23900-24900, 50-65, 2.870, 3.000, 4.440, 0.451, 0.164, 1.148, 0, 0, 384, 400, 0, 0
      crt_range2  31000-32000, 50-65, 0.330, 3.580, 1.750, 0.316, 0.063, 1.137, 0, 0, 480, 512, 0, 0
      
   
   // Nanao MS9-29
   ms929
   
      crt_range0  15450-16050, 50-65, 3.910, 4.700, 6.850, 0.190, 0.191, 1.018, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      crt_range1  23900-24900, 50-65, 2.910, 3.000, 4.440, 0.451, 0.164, 1.048, 0, 0, 384, 400, 0, 0
      
   
   // Rodotron 666B-29
   r666b
   
      crt_range0  15450-16050, 50-65, 3.190, 4.750, 6.450, 0.191, 0.191, 1.164, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
      crt_range1  23900-24900, 50-65, 2.870, 3.000, 4.440, 0.451, 0.164, 1.148, 0, 0, 384, 400, 0, 0
      crt_range2  31000-32500, 50-65, 0.330, 3.580, 1.750, 0.316, 0.063, 1.137, 0, 0, 400, 512, 0, 0
      
   
   // PC CRT 70kHz/120Hz
   pc_31_120
   
      crt_range0  31400-31600, 100-130, 0.671, 2.683, 3.353, 0.034, 0.101, 0.436, 0, 0, 200, 256, 0, 0
      crt_range1  31400-31600, 50-65, 0.671, 2.683, 3.353, 0.034, 0.101, 0.436, 0, 0, 400, 512, 0, 0
      
   
   // PC CRT 70kHz/120Hz
   pc_70_120
   
      crt_range0  30000-70000, 100-130, 2.201, 0.275, 4.678, 0.063, 0.032, 0.633, 0, 0, 192, 320, 0, 0
      crt_range1  30000-70000, 50-65, 2.201, 0.275, 4.678, 0.063, 0.032, 0.633, 0, 0, 400, 1024, 0, 0


Monitor presets built in VMMaker 1.2b (obsolete)
      
Format: monitor_specs0-6   HfreqMin-HfreqMax, VfreqMin,VfreqMax, HFrontPorch, HSyncPulse, HBackPorch, VfrontPorch, VSyncPulse, VBackPorch, HSyncPol, VSyncPol, ActiveLinesLimit, VirtualLinesLimit
Notes:
  • VMMaker 1.2b is obsolete. Please use the new CRT Tools 2.0, which are synchronized with GroovyMAME and are much easier to use.
  • Built in monitor presets are selected by their name, as "H9110", "D9800", "CGA", etc., editing vmmaker.ini, e.g.:  MonitorType = "H9110" . You don't need to introduce the full monitor_specs lines. They are just provided as a starting point to create new monitor_specs lines out of them.
  • To use a custom monitor preset, or any of the presets created by users (below), edit this option in vmmaker.ini: MonitorType = "CUSTOM", then fill in the required monitor_specs lines.
  • VMMaker 1.2b monitor specs format is outdated with respect to GroovyMAME. You can port the modern GroovyMAME presets to the older format used by VMMaker 1.2b, by doing this:
    GroovyMAME format: crt_range0  15625-15750, 49.50-65.00, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 192, 288, 448, 576
    VMMaker 1.2b format: monitor_specs0 15625-15750, 49.50-65.00, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 288, 448

// Wells Gardner D9800, D9400
D9800, D9400

      monitor_specs0    15250-18000, 40-80, 2.187, 4.688, 6.719, 0.190, 0.191, 1.018, 0, 0, 288, 448
      monitor_specs1    18001-19000, 40-80, 2.187, 4.688, 6.719, 0.140, 0.191, 0.950, 0, 0, 320, 448
      monitor_specs2    20501-29000, 40-80, 2.910, 3.000, 4.440, 0.451, 0.164, 1.048, 0, 0, 384, 576
      monitor_specs3    29001-32000, 40-80, 0.636, 3.813, 1.906, 0.318, 0.064, 1.048, 0, 0, 576, 768
      monitor_specs4    32001-34000, 40-80, 0.636, 3.813, 1.906, 0.020, 0.106, 0.607, 0, 0, 576, 768
      monitor_specs5    34001-38000, 40-80, 1.000, 3.200, 2.200, 0.020, 0.106, 0.607, 0, 0, 600, 768

// Wells Gardner D9200
D9200

      monitor_specs0    15250-16500, 40-80, 2.187, 4.688, 6.719, 0.190, 0.191, 1.018, 0, 0, 288, 448
      monitor_specs1    23900-24420, 40-80, 2.910, 3.000, 4.440, 0.451, 0.164, 1.048, 0, 0, 384, 768
      monitor_specs2    31000-32000, 40-80, 0.636, 3.813, 1.906, 0.318, 0.064, 1.048, 0, 0, 576, 768
      monitor_specs3    37000-38000, 40-80, 1.000, 3.200, 2.200, 0.020, 0.106, 0.607, 0, 0, 600, 768

// Hantarex MTC 9110
H9110

      monitor_specs0    15625-16670, 49.5-65, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.160, 1.056, 0, 0, 288, 448

// CGA - 15.2-15.7 kHz
CGA

      monitor_specs0    15250-15700, 49.5-65, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 288, 448

// EGA - 25.0 kHz
EGA

      monitor_specs0    24960-24960, 50-60, 2.910, 3.000, 4.440, 0.451, 0.164, 1.048, 0, 0, 384, 576

// VGA - 31.5 kHz
VGA

      monitor_specs0    31500-31500, 50-70, 0.636, 3.813, 1.906, 0.318, 0.064, 1.048, 0, 1, 576, 768

// Multifrequency PC CRT (SVGA)
MULTI

      monitor_specs0    54200-83800, 49-75, 1.000, 3.200, 2.200, 0.020, 0.106, 0.607, 1, 1, 1080, 1080

// PAL TV
PAL

      monitor_specs0    15625-15625, 50-50, 1.650, 4.700, 5.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 312.5, 576

// NTSC TV
NTSC

      monitor_specs0    15734.26-15734.26, 58.95-59.95, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 262.5, 480

// Generic 15.7 kHz
GENERIC

      monitor_specs0    15725-15750, 50-60, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.192, 1.024, 0, 0, 288, 448

Monitor presets done by users (for VMMaker 1.2b)

// MAKVISION 2929D (cotmm68030)

      monitor_specs0    30000-40000, 47.00-90.00, 0.600, 2.500, 2.800, 0.032, 0.096, 0.448, 0, 0, 640, 768

// NANAO MS-2930/MS-2931 (pyrojoe, thefooz, senorchris)

      monitor_specs0    15450.00-16050.00, 55-65, 3.19, 4.75, 6.45, 0.191, 0.191, 1.164, 0, 0, 288, 448
      monitor_specs1    23900.00-24900.00, 55-65, 2.87, 3.0, 4.44, 0.451, 0.164, 1.148, 0, 0, 480, 768
      monitor_specs2    31000.00-32000.00, 55-65, 0.33, 3.58, 1.75, 0.316, 0.063, 1.137, 0, 0, 576, 768

// NANAO MS9-29 (retrorepair)

      monitor_specs0    15450.00-16050.00, 55-65, 3.91, 4.70, 6.85, 0.190, 0.191, 1.018, 0, 0, 288, 448
      monitor_specs1    23900.00-24900.00, 55-65, 2.91, 3.00, 4.44, 0.451, 0.164, 1.048, 0, 0, 480, 768

// WG 25k7131 (nickmudd)- used H9110

      monitor_specs0    15625-16670, 49.5-65, 2.000, 4.700, 8.000, 0.064, 0.160, 1.056, 0, 0, 288, 448

// Hantarex Polostar 25" (Calamity)

      monitor_specs0    15700-15800, 45-80, 4.000, 4.700, 5.300, 0.062, 0.062, 0.740, 0, 0, 288, 448
      monitor_specs1    16100-16200, 45-80, 1.280, 4.500, 6.420, 0.062, 0.062, 0.740, 0, 0, 288, 448
      monitor_specs2    25100-25200, 45-80, 0.200, 0.400, 8.000, 0.040, 0.040, 0.640, 0, 0, 384, 768
      monitor_specs3    31500-31600, 45-80, 0.170, 0.350, 5.500, 0.040, 0.040, 0.640, 0, 0, 576, 800

Please report your settings if your monitor is not in the list or you find better settings for a existing monitor.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 04:41:04 am by Calamity »
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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 04:32:08 pm »
The Hantarex Polo 25 (not Polostar) is a dual mode 15KHz/25KHz (manually switched) arcade monitor.

We established in another thread that when it's in 15KHz mode, it can use the same preset as the Hantarex MTC 9110 (H9110)...

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=110905.msg1205207#msg1205207

It could probably be added as an alias for the H9110 setting, but it should be at least documented somewhere so that it doesn't get lost.
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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2012, 04:45:52 pm »
Any suggestion for the PAL SCART TV mentioned here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,116669.msg1294695.html#msg1294695 ?

The service manual says it can do 49 to 61hz refresh.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 11:28:10 pm »
Hi All, I was thinking about swapping out my Nanao MS8 for a Wei Ya 3129A so I can play some higher res games. Has anyone got the presets for it already done?

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 04:06:32 am »
Can anyone provide custom specs for a Intervideo 25 inch arcade monitor?
Magic resolutions are working almost fine with generic specs in VMmaker.ini, but several titles aren't showing on my monitor.
I'm running Groovymame 0.147u3 latest version with switchres 0.014, my FE is Mala, but I tried also the same games not working with the only Groovymame executable and nothing changed.


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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2013, 09:47:03 pm »
Does anyone have any settings for the (Betson) Kortek KT-2914F? I had an AVGA card but it started artifacting on me. Decided to jump head first into groovymame and got myself a HD4350.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2013, 03:25:56 pm »
here's my setup for m3129:

crt_range0                15250-16500, 40-80, 4.087, 4.688, 2.519, 0.190, 0.191, 1.018, 1, 1, 224, 288, 448, 576
crt_range1                23900-24420, 40-80, 2.510, 3.000, 4.940, 0.451, 0.164, 1.048, 1, 1, 320, 384, 0, 0
crt_range2                31000-32000, 40-80, 0.536, 3.813, 2.106, 0.318, 0.064, 1.048, 1, 1, 480, 512, 0, 0

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2013, 02:39:58 pm »
Regarding switchres and vmmaker presets - which of the switchres presets as detailed here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,128879.0.html are available within vmmaker?

vmmaker itself doesn't provide any feedback as to what's going on with the monitortype line - you can even comment it out and it'll still function perfectly happily.  ???

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2013, 06:25:17 pm »
Hi cools,

The presets supported by vmmaker are exactly the ones listed on the first post in this thread. If you remove the settings from vmmaker.ini it will silently pick a CGA monitor as default.

The covergence of the presets format should have been done months ago but has not been possible yet for several reasons. Hopefully soon.
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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2013, 05:17:11 am »
Aha! Thanks.

I need to check my machine at home then, I thought I had it set to arcade_31 in VMMaker yet everything's working perfectly at 31khz in Groovy.

I like generic, standard presets rather than model specifics ;)

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2013, 04:37:37 pm »
I'm new to using arcade monitors and Groovymame but not new to mame.  I have a WG D7000 and was wondering if there are any presets I should use or just go with the generic.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2013, 04:55:22 am »
Does anybody know if the preset

k7131       Wells Gardner 25K7131

matches a 25K7197  (Mortal Kombat I )

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2013, 10:26:50 pm »
Hi cools,

The presets supported by vmmaker are exactly the ones listed on the first post in this thread. If you remove the settings from vmmaker.ini it will silently pick a CGA monitor as default.

The covergence of the presets format should have been done months ago but has not been possible yet for several reasons. Hopefully soon.

Just wondering if these presets are still valid or if we only use the ones listed in the "GroovyMAME/GroovyUME 0.149 SwitchRes v0.014b"?

I have a Wei-Ya M3129 "m3129" which is listed but not sure what to put in the vmmaker.ini file? I am guessing that your presets are not compatible with the vmmaker.ini file.

Sorry this has always confused me :)


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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 05:36:22 pm »
Calamity, I think right now the biggest problem for getting the XM2960 into the presets generally comes with how to deal with games that are a vertical resolution of 400 lines (like War Gods).  That, plus the general issue with the monitor's preset of 1024x768 not even wanting to go up to 49KHz.

Also out of curiosity, do you think interlaced mode should be retained for this monitor on games that make use of it (Popeye and Bloody Roar 2 as examples)?
It doesn't matter how bad things are, it'll work out in the end.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 08:25:28 am »
First post updated with current GroovyMAME presets (SwitchRes v0.015).
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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2014, 06:18:01 am »
Quick query as I'm struggling with this. The VMMaker VGA and GM arcade_31 presets work pretty well together but are centred on screen differently. If I convert arcade_31 to VMMaker format it should be the below monitor_specs line, am I right?

      crt_range0  31400-31500, 49.50-65.00, 0.940, 3.770, 1.890, 0.349, 0.064, 1.017, 0, 0, 400, 512, 0, 0
  monitor_specs0  31400-31500, 49.50-65.00, 0.940, 3.770, 1.890, 0.349, 0.064, 1.017, 0, 0, 512, 512

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2014, 06:25:28 am »
  monitor_specs0  31400-31500, 49.50-65.00, 0.940, 3.770, 1.890, 0.349, 0.064, 1.017, 0, 0, 512, 512

It should be this instead:

  monitor_specs0  31400-31500, 49.50-65.00, 0.940, 3.770, 1.890, 0.349, 0.064, 1.017, 0, 0, 512, 800


(old VirtualLinesLimit ≈ new ProgressiveLinesMin x 2)
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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2014, 07:49:01 am »
Aha.

It shouldn't actually create any interlaced modes though? I'm pretty sure 31k interlaced modes don't work on the monitor.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2014, 02:04:46 pm »
Turns out they do. It's like having an Amiga again. Actually kinda nice having useful resolutions available

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2014, 03:13:00 pm »
  monitor_specs0  31400-31500, 49.50-65.00, 0.940, 3.770, 1.890, 0.349, 0.064, 1.017, 0, 0, 512, 512

It should be this instead:

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(old VirtualLinesLimit ≈ new ProgressiveLinesMin x 2)

Many thanks. I've also doubled values on the res min lines in vmmaker.ini and things are now spot on perfect.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2014, 09:06:58 pm »
I'm not sure the setting above for the Nanao MS9-29 are right? I had originally run VMmaker with just the "Generic" setting and Groovymame .ini with "arcade_15" and everything works great. All the games are correctly centred.

I tried the MS9 settings in VMmaker and then set the Groovymame .ini to "ms929" and all the games are slightly off to the left compared to the frontend at 640x480@30hz and I tried Narc a 24Khz game and it didn't sync at all.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2014, 03:39:08 am »
Stick with the arcade_ ones.

For real precision, port the MAME preset values into a VMMaker CRT_range.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2014, 05:14:58 am »
I'm not sure the setting above for the Nanao MS9-29 are right? I had originally run VMmaker with just the "Generic" setting and Groovymame .ini with "arcade_15" and everything works great. All the games are correctly centred.

I tried the MS9 settings in VMmaker and then set the Groovymame .ini to "ms929" and all the games are slightly off to the left compared to the frontend at 640x480@30hz and I tried Narc a 24Khz game and it didn't sync at all.
Do you have an auto switching 24Hz one?
Mine isn't so you have to use the custom setting and only put in the first line...
But yes mine is a little to the left as well....

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2014, 01:49:24 pm »
The MS929 preset centres differently to the generic ones.

If you're using VMMaker "GENERIC" or "CGA" then the "generic_15", "arcade_15", "arcade_15ex", "arcade_15_25" and "arcade_15_25_31" MAME presets will all be centred well in 15KHz. You just have to look at the porch values to see this.

You need to use the MS9-29 values (in the opening post) in VMMaker as well as the preset in MAME.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2014, 06:50:16 pm »
Hello.. I am reading this topic in the hope I can solve my problem that I have with my Makvision M3129DF-TS . I am using Grovymame, and the problem I have is with 31khz games like Wargods, NFL Blitz etc.. when monitor switch to 31khz the imagine is not centered, half of it is out of the monitor (to the left) and the rest of the monitor is showing black/grey area.. is it something I can fix with .ini parameters editing?

thansk for the help.!! :D

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2015, 06:01:27 am »
What are the settings for the vmmaker.ini GENERIC preset?

Using GENERIC I can get my monitor partially working (Sony BVM-A20F1U), but am not having much luck with custom settings. I think if I could use the GENERIC settings as a starting point I'd have more luck.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2015, 05:13:18 pm »
What are the settings for the vmmaker.ini GENERIC preset?

You have them in the first post.
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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2015, 06:56:39 am »
Well I'm an idiot aren't I. I see them now.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2015, 11:56:50 am »
Hi BYOACers. I just acquired a freebie NEC FE950 monitor, and was hoping someone could tell me how to go about determining the correct presets for this baby. Anyone manage to get one going?

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2015, 08:45:17 pm »
Is there a monitor preset for the Betson Imperial 27" ?

Same model that is reviewed here:
http://www.retroblast.com/reviews/betson-imperial-27-multisync-monitor-review/

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2015, 01:14:34 pm »
Does anyone know what the crt_ranges would be for a Sony BVM-D24E1WU?  No amount of google reveals anything.  While the manual has general specifications (15-45hz) it doesn't say anything about timings.

I've been able to get low res and some medium high resolutions to work with arcade_15_25_31, but there are some resolutions not working out of the box like 512x384 and 384x512 and 512x768.  I have been able to tweak those to work using arcadeOSD but I have no idea how to turn around and covert to a crt_range for the mame.ini.  So it seems the monitor can display eveyrthing, one way or another, but getting them all to work at once with the correct crt_ranges is the issue.

The monitor is capable of 15-45 Hz and 768p at up to 61 vertical hz refresh (maybe more).

I've been able to get all the resolutions to work "one way or another", but at the cost of other resolutions then not working.

I just don't seem to have the brain power to figure out the crt_ranges.

Anyone know what the crt-ranges would be for this monitor?  I know it's capable, I've seen all the resolutions work, but as I've said, a few require custom tweaking and I don't know how to put that back into a crt_range.

This is one of the most beautiful CRT's I've ever used and I hope I can get it fully working.
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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2015, 06:01:24 pm »
Is there a monitor preset for the Betson Imperial 27" ?

Same model that is reviewed here:
http://www.retroblast.com/reviews/betson-imperial-27-multisync-monitor-review/

I'd like to know as well please, as this is what I'm using.  Going to be giving Groovymame a shot once all of my new computer parts come in.  Should I just use the standard trisync (arcade_15_25_31) option?

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2016, 04:03:11 pm »
I would like to use GroovyMAME with a Ultracade Universal Video Converter/downscaler (I have a small form PC with onboard NVIDIA graphics with not possibility of adding a suitable ATI card) to JAMMA. The best output option is 480p. What monitor preset does this best? 31k?

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2016, 04:26:27 pm »
I would like to use GroovyMAME with a Ultracade Universal Video Converter/downscaler (I have a small form PC with onboard NVIDIA graphics with not possibility of adding a suitable ATI card) to JAMMA. The best output option is 480p. What monitor preset does this best? 31k?

Because you're supposed to run at the desktop resolution all the time (say 640x480), you can simply set -monitor lcd.
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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2016, 05:26:21 pm »
Thanks a lot!  :cheers:

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2016, 10:50:41 pm »
Presets for the following Sony Production Monitors.  For god sakes, your monitor should be configured for 4:3 underscan, and for those that are widescreen monitors, set your H SIZE appropriately for a 4:3 image.  This could all be converted to 16:9 for the widescreen versions of the monitor but it's a corner case I'm not using (yet) so I'm not providing any info on that.  Almost all old games are 4:3 so don't bother killing yourself over a 16:9 desktop or whatever.  I do intend to go back to this later so I can play newer PC games and consoles, but you can adjust another channel for a widescreen console for now.

BVM-D24E1WU
BVM-D32E1WU
BVM-D20F1U
BVM-A24E1WU (unverified but likely to work)
BVM-A32E1WU (unverified but likely to work)

These monitors all support. 240p, 480i, 525i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, NTSC and PAL and allow a whole lot of variation in between.  I've not included any PAL ranges in here because I haven't had time to play around with pal emulated systems.  With these ranges you will have the benefit of getting a nice 1024x768 desktop and resolutions all the way up to 800p (a little out of spec) for situations where you want do double the resolution and use scan line effects.  I also don't really have any reason to get 1080i working so that's not included.  The ranges are designed to conform as close to NTSC and EDTV standards as I could possible make them.  You will likely need to adjust the horizontal position in arcade_osd for each resolution as the picture shifts horizontally a little bit for each individual mode.  Vertical should stay consitent once done the first time (per 480i/720p/480p).  The standard resolutions should be pretty close out of the box.

monitor "bvm_d24e1wu_alt", "Sony BVM-D24E1WU - Alternate", "4:3"
        crt_range0 15200-20500, 54.70-62.00, 1.500, 4.700, 4.700, 0.602, 0.191, 1.352, 0, 0, 192, 288, 390, 576
        crt_range1 30300-35000, 54.70-62.00, 0.500, 2.000, 2.600, 0.128, 0.030, 1.032, 0, 0, 320, 480, 0, 0
        crt_range2 30300-35000, 54.70-62.00, 0.500, 2.000, 2.600, 0.030, 0.030, 1.032, 0, 0, 481, 512, 0, 0
        crt_range3 42200-49900, 54.70-62.00, 0.800, 0.755, 3.400, 0.067, 0.156, 0.444, 0, 0, 640, 800, 0, 0

FOR THE EXTRON TURN OFF ADSP.  It's a piece of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- mode, at least for groovymame, and screws up interlaced games by forcing them to progressive mode and dropping half the fields.  It also will make alignment impossible.  You will have to realign every time your reboot for every mode.  You've been warned.

192-288 vertical line range is a little bit vertically stretched to allow 224 line games like SNES console to have no black bars on top or bottom.  Also 192 line systems like colecovision will still have black bars but get a bit more vertical stretch to look a little better.  So go to a 480/i mode (or any more between 240-288) in aracde osd and adjust your monitors V SIZE accordingly.

If you have other consoles attached to your monitor, do this ON ANOTHER CHANNEL, so you can keep one config for your groovymame, and another for standard NTSC console adjustment.  Good example,  adjust groovymame on channel 1, and calibrate consoles on channel 2, or assign each console to a separate channel to get perfect alignment for each.  Up to you.

You will get a farely wide range of games working with these modelines.  Atari games that were 384p (25hz) should play natively, however they will be vertically squished.  This is because the the monitor does not support 25hz and this was the best I can do.  Two options here.  Use a different channel and stretch out your V SIZE, or set up an INI file for each atari game and force the resolution to 2560x768@0 and throw in some scanline effects (this is what I do).  Either way, you pretty much pixel perfect resolution.

Attached are the user modes I use, by no means complete, but a good start.
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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2017, 05:22:40 am »
Hello all,

I'm running the Linux build of Groovy MAME in an Egret II rascasse cab with a Nanao MS929 monitor. I've changed the monitor preset to Nanao MS929 and some of the games in GM no longer sync, giving me a rolling image. DoDonPachi (and I think R-Type) were affected. When I switch back to generic 15KhZ setting everything syncs correctly again.

What is the advantage of using the coresponding preset? Is it just the default image centering? Any explanation as to why this isn't syncing with those games?

Thanks,
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« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2017, 07:35:57 am »
Hello all,

I'm running the Linux build of Groovy MAME in an Egret II rascasse cab with a Nanao MS929 monitor. I've changed the monitor preset to Nanao MS929 and some of the games in GM no longer sync, giving me a rolling image. DoDonPachi (and I think R-Type) were affected. When I switch back to generic 15KhZ setting everything syncs correctly again.

What is the advantage of using the coresponding preset? Is it just the default image centering? Any explanation as to why this isn't syncing with those games?

Thanks,
Rupert.

By using the appropriate preset you will have better timing for your hardware (front/back porch, number of lines ... and allowed vertical refresh range).

The rolling image is not an issue. You have a pots inside the egret cab in the top right hand door. One is the V-sync, by adjusting it you will recover a stable picture.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2017, 09:10:10 am »
Excellent, thank you.

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Re: Monitor presets
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2017, 10:50:05 am »
Will the Nanao one marked "ms2930" work just as well for 2931?
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