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Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: ark_ader on December 22, 2011, 05:51:02 pm ---Got given £200 for Christmas instead of "wow gee thats nice -errr umm I hope you got the receipt" of several gift surprises of Christmas past. 

I got a PS3 and 8 Games + 2 BR Movies with it.  Ka'ching

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In the spirit of Xmas bliss I ignored this until after the holidays, but gee man, for a guy from the UK you sure are sounding like a crazy gun-toting Texan with all of that gigantic "CHRISTMAS" band-standing. 

It's cool man, you celebrate Christmas... good for you!  But you know doing stuff like that is the equivelent of a gay man running down a busy, public street with his wang hanging out yelling "I HAVE SEX WITH MEN!!!"  ;)

And like it or not, Christmas is a secular term now.  They celebrate it in Japan as a sort of Valentines day.  Korea does it for the kids and tourists.  You've got your birth of a savior Christmas and then you've got your Santa Claus and Frosty and "give me presents!" Christmas.  You can celebrate one or the other or both and still put the label of christmas on it, so I can appreciate the irony of the fact that you tried to use the term as a way of expressing your Christianity and denouncing all other celebrations (which by the way is a very UNCHRISTIAN thing to do) when the rest of the world uses Christmas as a generic, secular term for the holiday season. 

Oh and btw, most biblical scholars agree that Jesus's birthdate is a complete mystery and it's a proven fact that Christmas was put on the 25th because Roman Catholics refused to give up their pegan winter festival and the church was sick of fighting it, so the ultimate irony is that Christmas has ALWAYS been a secular holiday and the Chirst Child celebration was just tacked on later.  ;)

Man history is fun, you get to pee in the proverbial punchbowl with sheer facts.   :burgerking:

popsicle:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on December 27, 2011, 03:52:48 pm ---
And like it or not, Christmas is a secular term now.  They celebrate it in Japan as a sort of Valentines day.  Korea does it for the kids and tourists.  You've got your birth of a savior Christmas and then you've got your Santa Claus and Frosty and "give me presents!" Christmas.  You can celebrate one or the other or both and still put the label of christmas on it, so I can appreciate the irony of the fact that you tried to use the term as a way of expressing your Christianity and denouncing all other celebrations (which by the way is a very UNCHRISTIAN thing to do) when the rest of the world uses Christmas as a generic, secular term for the holiday season. 

Oh and btw, most biblical scholars agree that Jesus's birthdate is a complete mystery and it's a proven fact that Christmas was put on the 25th because Roman Catholics refused to give up their pegan winter festival and the church was sick of fighting it, so the ultimate irony is that Christmas has ALWAYS been a secular holiday and the Chirst Child celebration was just tacked on later.  ;)


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All of this ^

Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: shmokes on December 23, 2011, 11:49:34 am ---
Obviously by giving gifts instead of cash I run the risk of buying a gift that doesn't hit the mark, but searching for the perfect gift for my loved ones is fun for me. And I think it's a helluva lot more meaningful. Being able to buy a gift that the receiver doesn't want to return is an indication that the gift is thoughtful, and that you pay attention to the person and what they are like.

When someone gives me money, I am happy to spend it. But when someone gives methe perfect gift there is a sentimentality that goes along with it that makes it far more valuable than its monetary cost. Because it shows that the giver cares about me, that they think about who I am. I would rather get a gift that shows that the person really thought about me, than money or even the perfect gift that was only perfect because the person consulted my Amazon wish list.


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I wasn't ignoring this bit btw... I just thought it merited it's own seperate reply. 

I agree with this 100% and it annoys me that others don't feel the same way.  The holidays are especially stressful to me because I actually care about what I get people.  I usually start shopping in September to get everybody I care about at least one special gift.  By this time I'm usually ready to flog half of the nation, but to me it's worth it.  I genuinely like to make people happy and I get something out of it.  THAT is what the whole gift-giving part of this holiday is supposed to be about.   In terms of the getting gifts aspect I like it when people get me anything, but when somebody gives me money I always think in the back of my head that they didn't really care enough to make the effort. 

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