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| BadMouth:
Anyone have any info about if anything went on between Cave & Demul? All the youtube videos of Cave games running on the Demul .5.7 WIP were taken down, but I never heard anything about Cave contacting Demul. Now that we know they contacted MAMEdev, it makes me curious about what happened with Demul. |
| ark_ader:
--- Quote from: BadMouth on November 17, 2011, 10:55:39 am ---Anyone have any info about if anything went on between Cave & Demul? All the youtube videos of Cave games running on the Demul .5.7 WIP were taken down, but I never heard anything about Cave contacting Demul. Now that we know they contacted MAMEdev, it makes me curious about what happened with Demul. --- End quote --- Why? The cat is out of the bag. |
| Xiaou2:
This is where I can say "I told you so". Devs thought their 3 yr rule was good enough. However, in the field of Arcades, thats a very short time. Maybe it takes an op a year to decide to buy the board/game.. and then they still have try to make a profit off of that thing. Many of these machines cost thousands of dollars, so the turn around is based on like +6yrs of operation. Some Arcade companies have allowed Ops to get screwed over, by releasing modern console ports in a few yrs time. This has lined their pockets.. and destroyed the arcades. Id say the Rule needs to be more like 6 to 7yrs to be safe. Not that I even care, because most games made in this new era are complete garbage that are not even worth playing. |
| shateredsoul1979:
3 year rule? I thought it was more like 10 or 5 years? Did they change that? Yup, it's about the Cave Sh-III driver. They put it in mame starting with mame 143u8 I think (or u7) then sound was added in u9. I'm not sure if they meant for it to go public just yet because you could only launch the games via command line. Here's the thing though.... the rule doesn't really cover them completely. A lot of people thought it was too soon for the cave games considering some released on the xbox 360 recently. But, if the rule was based on whether the games were still profitable then they'd have to remove all of the good classics because those are being sold on xbox live and in compilations today. I personally think it was a fine way to test the waters. They tried and cave asked them to remove the drive. So they did and that was the indication that it was still too soon. Maybe when cave moves on to a different engine we'll see it back in mame. But yeah, I have no issue, with using mame to play those games, I'm not sure about the tutorial stuff, I'd probably just leave it up to people to find a version of mame that can play the games. I would be interested in hearing more about how they decided to do this, and whether demul will still have the cave games. |
| Donkbaca:
The actual rule is whether or not they are making enough money selling these games now to justify legal action against a bunch of nerds to protect those sales. |
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