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| MonMotha:
--- Quote from: Richard_Nixon on January 21, 2012, 08:30:16 am ---Also, I've read many times that 3d capable tvs put out a better 2d picture than thier non 3d capable counterparts. --- End quote --- This isn't due to the 3D. Most TVs that feature 3D support are somewhat higher models and have better panels. The 3D support (for models using active shutter glasses) is just an emitter (IR or RF) to sync the glasses up and maybe a couple pairs of glasses thrown in the box. Otherwise, it's just a plain ol' 120Hz TV capable of accepting 120Hz input (if flagged as 3D). The models that use polarization tricks for their 3D may actually suffer when doing 2D, depending on how it's implemented. |
| Richard_Nixon:
--- Quote from: MonMotha on January 22, 2012, 11:26:17 pm --- --- Quote from: Richard_Nixon on January 21, 2012, 08:30:16 am ---Also, I've read many times that 3d capable tvs put out a better 2d picture than thier non 3d capable counterparts. --- End quote --- This isn't due to the 3D. Most TVs that feature 3D support are somewhat higher models and have better panels. The 3D support (for models using active shutter glasses) is just an emitter (IR or RF) to sync the glasses up and maybe a couple pairs of glasses thrown in the box. Otherwise, it's just a plain ol' 120Hz TV capable of accepting 120Hz input (if flagged as 3D). --- End quote --- Thats what I meant. Not the fact that it is 3D alone, but because it is usually found in higher end models. As for the Hz thing. Its the tv that converts it up to 120Hz(or above). Video sources (that I know of) only put out @ 60Hz. |
| MonMotha:
Conventional TV sources are (at best) ~60Hz (59.94 in former NTSC land, 50.00 in former PAL land). Movies are 24 fps. A lot of TV is also interlaced, so you have to do something about that, and you'll end up with, at best, ~60fps as a result of that process. If you turn on the "120Hz mode", yes, it just upconverts. It's also handy if you feed the TV a native 24p signal for a movie, since 24 evenly divides 120 (but not 60), so you can avoid a 3:2 pulldown. Computers, however, can easily do 120Hz refresh rates (and even higher - let me assure you that 160Hz just looks wrong, too, as it's TOO smooth). Most TVs won't accept it if you just naively set your PC to 120Hz and hook the cable up, but if you instead tell the TV that you're sending it a "3D" signal that isn't actually 3D (it's just a chain of progressive frames at 120Hz) and don't bother putting on the glasses, you can get 120Hz refresh out of a lot of modern 3D-capable TVs. Handy little trick. You may have to adjust whether left or right comes before/after the other since some TVs do it in different orders from others. Obviously this only works on TVs with shutter glasses, not passive polarized glasses. |
| Gray_Area:
--- Quote from: Richard_Nixon on January 21, 2012, 08:30:16 am --- --- Quote from: Gray_Area on January 20, 2012, 08:33:55 pm --- I don't really care for 3D movies..... --- End quote --- How about 3d gaming? --- End quote --- Nope. There are a select few polygon games frome the 90s I play, but I tend to display them at 15khz/software scanlines, for example, Golden Tee '97. (I don't play any 'sports' games.) |
| supadave:
Boy did i drag up an old topic.. :-[ --- Quote from: Howard_Casto on December 30, 2011, 08:17:25 am --- IMHO 16:9 displays are not well suited for arcade cabinets unless it's a showcase cab or you are one of those goofs who want to look at a stretched out, distorted screen. --- End quote --- Just because you have a 16x9 doesn't mean your picture will be stretched out. you can set the Mame config to maintain correct aspect ratio for games and therefore it will just put black bars around the 4:3 games and the vertical games too. It's a much larger black bar around the vertical games obviously but at least it's all in correct proportion. I have a 42" and the bars do not bother me one bit. I don't really even notice them. I also use the scanline filters to help with the pixelation. No it's not perfect like a tube but it is much easier to deal with. Some things do look good stretched like the Hyperspin menu and some newer emulators. The advantage I've found is gaming outside of Mame. PC games, and newer emulators. It's all still just a matter of preference. Tubes look good if you have a good one, and LCD's IMO work to if done right. |
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