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Argh! Got computer from storage and it's not working
ark_ader:
--- Quote from: CCM on November 10, 2011, 10:32:47 pm ---on topic... I agree with knave, it's gotta be the motherboard.
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I know that and I'm like thousands of miles away. I knew the what was the main issue when Shmokes was describing it, thus I referred to a swap solution. What is even funnier is that Shmokes has some experience in PC troubleshooting. I mean he is a lawyer - he is supposed to be quicker on the mark. Swap out is like duh! Oh no lets draw it out, get the multimeter out. :lol
But he prefers to act like a noob and post his dilemma on this forum instead of just swapping out the board. But no I was being idiotic for suggesting that. I was infringing on Shmokes intelligent domain. He will send the board back, and find out it was far easier to just go out and buy a new board. Especially one that is not obsolete. I kind of feel sorry for him.
That is why it is so funny. :laugh2:
I would understand if he had an arcade machine and transported it and found out it didn't work. That would be interesting, and a learning experience.
Must be lonely being a lawyer. Especially one that is so single minded. :'(
Maybe I should do the extra year and qualify as a lawyer, how hard can it be?
What to call the law firm though.....?
:laugh2:
DaveMMR:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on November 11, 2011, 04:30:20 am ---But he prefers to act like a noob and post his dilemma on this forum instead of just swapping out the board. But no I was being idiotic for suggesting that. I was infringing on Shmokes intelligent domain. He will send the board back, and find out it was far easier to just go out and buy a new board. Especially one that is not obsolete. I kind of feel sorry for him.
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I'm not trying to fight anyone's battles for them - forgive me if it seems that way - but I don't get why you think swapping the motherboard is the simplest solution.
I've run into many computer problems, a lot similar to what shmokes has and it has NEVER been the motherboard. While yes, they do break - they're also actually fairly resilient. So if I had done as you seem to think is common sense (swapping the board) I would have wasted a lot of time. Taking the motherboard out is not quick.
When you troubleshoot computers, you go with the easiest possible fix first - motherboard is a last resort after you exhausted everything.
(edited for clarity)
BobA:
Last ditch effort. Try the motherboard out of the case on a piece of cardboard with everything removed to see if you can get it to post. Chassis shorts do occur but have not seen one for quite a few years.
ark_ader:
--- Quote from: DaveMMR on November 11, 2011, 09:23:52 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on November 11, 2011, 04:30:20 am ---But he prefers to act like a noob and post his dilemma on this forum instead of just swapping out the board. But no I was being idiotic for suggesting that. I was infringing on Shmokes intelligent domain. He will send the board back, and find out it was far easier to just go out and buy a new board. Especially one that is not obsolete. I kind of feel sorry for him.
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I'm not trying to fight anyone's battles for them - forgive me if it seems that way - but I don't get why you think swapping the motherboard is the simplest solution.
I've run into many computer problems, a lot similar to what shmokes has and it has NEVER been the motherboard. While yes, they do break - they're also actually fairly resilient. So if I had done as you seem to think is common sense (swapping the board) I would have wasted a lot of time. Taking the motherboard out is not quick.
When you troubleshoot computers, you go with the easiest possible fix first - motherboard is a last resort after you exhausted everything.
(edited for clarity)
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I would agree with you if I ran a shop and had loads of time on my hands. But when you are manning a busy helpdesk and updating/fixing the units under pressure you tend to get a feel of a situation as it becomes old hat. I guess a car mechanic can run into similar situations. Again I would agree with your comment say fifteen years ago when motherboards were built like tanks, well putting it another way - your IO cards PSU and hard drives would fail before your mainboard did. I have been building systems since just before I graduated school at 17. I had a good business selling refurbished XT boxes out of my garage, before I turned my attention to networking.
Today mainboards are priced to be swapped out. Most boards have practically everything IO on them. Sometimes if a board is cheap enough I would buy three just in case. In the help desk scenario most of our issues were mainboard related. You get that when you buy from the lowest bidder. ;D Shmokes knows that too. That is why I like laughing at him. The guy is such a predictable tool. :laugh2: May he stay on these boards forever. :laugh2: :laugh2:
lilshawn:
Free motherboard is free. In my eyes that trumps paying to buy a new one. :dunno
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