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ark_ader:

--- Quote from: CCM on November 10, 2011, 10:32:47 pm ---on topic... I agree with knave, it's gotta be the motherboard.

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I know that and I'm like thousands of miles away.  I knew the what was the main issue when Shmokes was describing it, thus I referred to a swap solution.  What is even funnier is that Shmokes has some experience in PC troubleshooting.  I mean he is a lawyer - he is supposed to be quicker on the mark.  Swap out is like duh!  Oh no lets draw it out, get the multimeter out.  :lol

But he prefers to act like a noob and post his dilemma on this forum instead of just swapping out the board.  But no I was being idiotic for suggesting that.  I was infringing on Shmokes intelligent domain.  He will send the board back, and find out it was far easier to just go out and buy a new board.  Especially one that is not obsolete.  I kind of feel sorry for him.

That is why it is so funny.   :laugh2:

I would understand if he had an arcade machine and transported it and found out it didn't work.  That would be interesting, and a learning experience.

Must be lonely being a lawyer.  Especially one that is so single minded.  :'(

Maybe I should do the extra year and qualify as a lawyer, how hard can it be?

What to call the law firm though.....?


 :laugh2:

DaveMMR:

--- Quote from: ark_ader on November 11, 2011, 04:30:20 am ---But he prefers to act like a noob and post his dilemma on this forum instead of just swapping out the board.  But no I was being idiotic for suggesting that.  I was infringing on Shmokes intelligent domain.  He will send the board back, and find out it was far easier to just go out and buy a new board.  Especially one that is not obsolete.  I kind of feel sorry for him.

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I'm not trying to fight anyone's battles for them - forgive me if it seems that way - but I don't get why you think swapping the motherboard is the simplest solution.

I've run into many computer problems, a lot similar to what shmokes has and it has NEVER been the motherboard. While yes, they do break - they're also actually fairly resilient. So if I had done as you seem to think is common sense (swapping the board) I would have wasted a lot of time. Taking the motherboard out is not quick.

When you troubleshoot computers, you go with the easiest possible fix first - motherboard is a last resort after you exhausted everything.

(edited for clarity)

BobA:
Last ditch effort.  Try the motherboard out of the case on a piece of cardboard with everything removed to see if you can get it to post.   Chassis shorts do occur but have not seen one for quite a few years. 

ark_ader:

--- Quote from: DaveMMR on November 11, 2011, 09:23:52 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on November 11, 2011, 04:30:20 am ---But he prefers to act like a noob and post his dilemma on this forum instead of just swapping out the board.  But no I was being idiotic for suggesting that.  I was infringing on Shmokes intelligent domain.  He will send the board back, and find out it was far easier to just go out and buy a new board.  Especially one that is not obsolete.  I kind of feel sorry for him.

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I'm not trying to fight anyone's battles for them - forgive me if it seems that way - but I don't get why you think swapping the motherboard is the simplest solution.

I've run into many computer problems, a lot similar to what shmokes has and it has NEVER been the motherboard. While yes, they do break - they're also actually fairly resilient. So if I had done as you seem to think is common sense (swapping the board) I would have wasted a lot of time. Taking the motherboard out is not quick.

When you troubleshoot computers, you go with the easiest possible fix first - motherboard is a last resort after you exhausted everything.

(edited for clarity)

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I would agree with you if I ran a shop and had loads of time on my hands.  But when you are manning a busy helpdesk and updating/fixing the units under pressure you tend to get a feel of a situation as it becomes old hat.  I guess a car mechanic can run into similar situations.  Again I would agree with your comment say fifteen years ago when motherboards were built like tanks, well putting it another way - your IO cards PSU and hard drives would fail before your mainboard did.  I have been building systems since just before I graduated school at 17.  I had a good business selling refurbished XT boxes out of my garage, before I turned my attention to networking.

Today mainboards are priced to be swapped out. Most boards have practically everything IO on them.  Sometimes if a board is cheap enough I would buy three just in case.  In the help desk scenario most of our issues were mainboard related.  You get that when you buy from the lowest bidder.  ;D  Shmokes knows that too.  That is why I like laughing at him.  The guy is such a predictable tool.    :laugh2:  May he stay on these boards forever.   :laugh2:  :laugh2:

lilshawn:
Free motherboard is free. In my eyes that trumps paying to buy a new one.  :dunno

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