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ark_ader:
I would get her a medium format camera.

They are very easy to use, take wonderful pictures.

They are quite expensive, but your wife will love you for it.  :applaud:

shmokes:

--- Quote from: Hoopz on October 31, 2011, 07:53:56 pm ---My budget is between $200-300. 

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Why are we discussing anything other than point-and-shoots right now? 

Blanka:

--- Quote from: stu33 on November 04, 2011, 11:37:47 am ---You can see, then, how jpeg quality isn't really important to me.  

This same Lightroom/Photoshop process would work with ANY CAMERA.
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Guess you did not read my post. I'm a professional photographer and I am a nitpic to the last pixel. I can tell you: PS/Lightroom is NOT ABLE TO GET THE SAME QUALITY FROM ANY RAW (NIKON, CANON, SONY whatever, even LEICA) A NIKON POOPS OUT IN JPEG ALREADY!!!
PS/Lightroom/Aperture = LESS QUALITY IMAGES FROM RAWS THAN NIKON out the camera JPEGS, even when a NIKON RAW is used in LR/PS. I love Photoshop to retouch my RAW->TIF output of NX2, but for the RAW conversion itself it just plain sucks. NX2 is horrible for UI, but if I have to deliver the best image quality possible, there is no other way. I even pull 5DmkII images through NX2!
Nikon purchased some really crazy good software from NIK, and incorporated it into their camera, or into NX2 for RAW processing.
With their D5100 they went even further: now the camera also removes every distortion in any D-lens. So that means NO aberation, NO vignetting, NO distortion. PS and LR are horrible in removing aberation, and distortion removal is so/so too. NX2 treats each channel (R,G,B) seperate so that the different bending of the colours of light is compensated. With PS/LR distortion control is just an adapted sphere transformation, and aberation removal is just local pixel shift between RGB layers: it never works for the whole image.


--- Quote from: stu33 on November 04, 2011, 11:37:47 am ---I'm not going to get into a tit-for-tat on Canon vs. Nikon.  I've seen those arguments reach the pseudo-religious fervor that Mac vs. Windows arguments achieve.
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In camera RAW-JPEG in a Nikon just makes a lens better than it is by carefully matching the 3 layers (RGB) to get the best image possible. There is no other camera brand doing this.

It is nothing Nikon vs Canon or Windows vs Mac. Both camera's are nice. I just tell that just one brand has put software in a camera that is actually able to correct flaws in a way that does right to physic laws. It would compare to Windows vs Mac vs Linux when Windows and Linux would not offer scalable type and just run on bitmap fonts. It is a fundamental design difference.

When I was new to my camera I used Adobe DNG converter to make all my first 3 months RAW's into DNG's for better future compatibly. It was the worst I ever did to my "negatives". PS just makes crap out of these DNG's. Later I discovered there is a way to get the quality I produce with my current workflow. Use PS for a plain unaltered DNG->16 bit TIF conversion. Then run NX2 over that 16 bit TIF again. I still miss the highlight recovery options then, but it is better than nothing.

Blanka:

--- Quote from: shmokes on November 04, 2011, 09:41:40 pm ---Why are we discussing anything other than point-and-shoots right now? 

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Ever heard about second hand?

crashwg:

--- Quote from: Blanka on November 06, 2011, 02:13:03 pm ---Ever heard about second hand?

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--- Quote from: Hoopz on October 31, 2011, 07:53:56 pm ---wife a new camera for her birthday

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Who buys second hand (other than antiques) for their wife's birthday?

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