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Walking Dead: Season 2
Howard_Casto:
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--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 01, 2011, 04:16:34 am ---Shane was the one slowing the pair down, NOT OTIS. Shane actually falls twice due to his bumb leg and Otis helps him up. Otis is a big guy, and he's carrying the heaviest pack. So to those of you who thought Shame shot him because he was "slowing them down" you are dead wrong. I sincerely hope we learn later on that he simply shot him out of revenge, because shooting him actually made things worse and severely lessened his chances of getting back alive. Also that bumb leg sure seemed to get better. I mean he was barely standing on it while carrying his lighter, smaller pack and yet he manages to get back with BOTH packs just fine.
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Slowing the pair down and revenge never even entered my mind as to why he shot Otis. To me, the clear reason is because he realized they were both too tired and slow neither of them would make it to the truck before getting overrun by the zombies. Shooting Otis caused all of the zombies chasing him to stop and eat Otis instead of continuing to chase him, which would give him plenty of time to make a slow escape to the truck. It's like the old saying that you don't have to be faster than a bear to escape an attacking bear, you just have to be faster then the guy next to you.
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+1. This is the reason why I thought Shane shot Otis as well, the revenge didnt even come into my mind. Of course, like I said earlier, my DVR was totally F'ed up so this episode kinda got screwed up for me.
I understand what you mean about the writing Howard. I thought yeah, the flare thing worked well, why not light a damn car on fire with one of those flares?
Also, Shane is just annoying, with his blank stares, and gaping mouth etc. I hope he does get killed, but he probably wont. The wife needs to get eaten too, for being a whore. The chick at the ranch, the one that gave the korean kid something to drink and was talking about god, is oddly attractive. I hope thats her shirt they take off during the promo for the next episode. :drool
The blonde chick with the gun needs to die too, and they need to meet some new people. I like Darrel, but, I dont like how his character flipped a 180 from last season to this one. The first season he was a ---tallywhacker--- to everyone CONSTANTLY, and now he is semi nice, and cares for the stupid little girl, and is all nice to everyone. Does she die or what?!
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If that's the case then it's poor writing/filming. I mean I'm no expert and Shane is a colossal male genital, but if it were me I would have waited until the last possible second to shoot him, not when the zombies were 100 feet away, AREN'T GAINING AT ALL and there might still be a chance that they'll make it.
I don't think he flipped at all. I think he was always a good guy but was under the influence of his white trash brother. Without him looking over his shoulder he's free to act how he wants instead of how he's expected to act. That little story while they were walking in the woods kind of gave some insight into his horrible childhood. He's kinda like Archie Bunker... at the beginning of the episode he says all of these horrible racist things and then he actually has to deal with what he was talking about in a real situation and he reluctantly takes them all back. About caring for the child.... I don't think it was so much that he cared (more than a normal human being would anyway), but that he didn't want to listen to the old woman wail all night. ;)
I still don't get how the little girl could be lost, but with the search being drawn out this long, I guess she is. She must have the poorest sense of direction ever though, because they left the highway for like 5 minutes, it would be pretty damn hard to be lost for days. Maybe somebody kidnapped her?
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 02, 2011, 05:02:19 am --- About caring for the child.... I don't think it was so much that he cared (more than a normal human being would anyway), but that he didn't want to listen to the old woman wail all night.
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You guys are too black and white on these things. There is middle ground. He really believes the girl can still be out there because he did it as a kid. He also probably understood the mother's pain. There is an area where he doesn't care as much about the girl as she does but he understands how destroyed her mother probably is without knowing. It's the not knowing that is the problem. He's right about one thing. In that area of the country the girl could be holed up in any number of abandoned houses, shacks, sheds, barns, etc. The weather is not going to kill her so she can stay there for quite a while if it's free of zombies.
lordnacho:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 02, 2011, 05:02:19 am ---If that's the case then it's poor writing/filming. I mean I'm no expert and Shane is a colossal male genital, but if it were me I would have waited until the last possible second to shoot him, not when the zombies were 100 feet away, AREN'T GAINING AT ALL and there might still be a chance that they'll make it.
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I don't see it that way, he heard how far away they were. Instinct kicked in, fight or flight, but he chose fight against the good guy.
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 02, 2011, 05:02:19 am ---I still don't get how the little girl could be lost, but with the search being drawn out this long, I guess she is. She must have the poorest sense of direction ever though, because they left the highway for like 5 minutes, it would be pretty damn hard to be lost for days. Maybe somebody kidnapped her?
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Pretty easy to get lost in the woods, I've lost my path hiking and backtracked to find markers. Without markers and zombies chasing me, I'd probably get lost too.
Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on November 02, 2011, 07:57:17 am ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 02, 2011, 05:02:19 am --- About caring for the child.... I don't think it was so much that he cared (more than a normal human being would anyway), but that he didn't want to listen to the old woman wail all night.
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You guys are too black and white on these things. There is middle ground. He really believes the girl can still be out there because he did it as a kid. He also probably understood the mother's pain. There is an area where he doesn't care as much about the girl as she does but he understands how destroyed her mother probably is without knowing. It's the not knowing that is the problem. He's right about one thing. In that area of the country the girl could be holed up in any number of abandoned houses, shacks, sheds, barns, etc. The weather is not going to kill her so she can stay there for quite a while if it's free of zombies.
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Isn't that what I just said? (note the anymore than a normal human would bit.) ;)
Actually, in this type of genere, it's the Gray Area that will get you killed. Look at any zombie movie, comic, or hell any horror story in general. There is a terrible thing going on and everybody is managing just fine, until one of three things happen:
1. Somebody does something completely irrational because they let their emotions get the better of them.
2. Somebody bases their actions on faith instead of logic/science/common sense.
3. Somebody does something that is morally unforgiveable, like murder, letting somebody die that they could have saved ect..
After one of those three things happen it's a downward spiral of piled up bodies until only a couple remain, the few that never did one of the three things.
It happend in all the dead movies, it happens in all the slasher flicks, it even happens in the Walking Dead comic series.
So keep that in mind when the zombie apocalypse hits... become an athiest, stay calm and rational and always be a straight arrow.
ChadTower:
You left out a couple:
4. Someone is black.
5. Someone has sex.
6. Everyone is not Bruce Campbell.
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