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Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: Donkbaca on March 12, 2012, 07:14:33 pm ---Geez HC, I think its pretty silly to be talking about unrealistic things, given the whole premise of the show.

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No, it absolutely is not. 

This show requires a HUGE suspension of disbelief in that you have to pretend that zombies are a real possibliity and that the dead can re-animate.

The larger the suspension of disbelief a show has, the more realistic the show's plot/logic has to be.  When something stupid happens it takes you out of your suspension of disbelief and the immersion effect is lost.  In other words you don't enjoy the show as much. 

I mean this is year one film school stuff man... everybody knows this.

It's like those movies in the mid 90's where the spy would sneak into a huge facility and instantly copy a companies entire database on a single floppy disc.  Regardless of how unbelieveable the plot was I was probably into the film until that moment.  And then I realize what idiots the writers were and I'm shaking my fist at the screen... the illusion is over... the film has been ruined for me.

To answer your question yes... I would have rather seen Dale die in a more realistic way.  You see the problem isn't just that he died unrealistically, it's that it could have easily been fixed.  Have the zombie chomping at his stomache instead of his face.... the zombie gets a bite... everybody knows he's a goner and thus the scene could have ended the exact same way.  Heck just have the zombie scratch his stomach pretty bad... that would have been in the rhealm of possibilities and again, the same result.

Otis could have been handled better as well.  Imagine them booking it (well as fast as possible anyway, Shane's leg was messed up) with the zombies actually breathing down their necks...both of them firing backwards into the crowd as often as possible. Otis says something like "I can't keep this up!" and Shane says "I've got your back, I'll carry your gun and the pack and I'll take over for a while" He gives them to him and Shane blasts him in the face and Otis falls into a sea of zombies.  Again, same result, but it's more realisitic and it would have actually looked better film-wise.


Hershell isn't Dale's replacement.. they aren't the same character, but up until now Dale was the father figure of the group.  Hershell will fill in that role.

You've got to remember that Daryl wasn't so nice to the group in the beginning and he evolved into a legitimately decent person only to turn into a psuedo villain in the last couple of episodes (beating the kid half to death... attempting to kill the kid without the group's consent, ect...).  I don't think the people of the group have any ill will towards him, but he is having problems with his own actions.  It's always an internal battle and his redemption would be his own redemption in his own eyes.  He puts on a good tough guy act... but that guy is hurting inside.

Green Giant:
I have to agree with HC that you need to keep some logic no matter how silly the concept or story is.

Most recently I remember watching Terminator Salvation.  I can follow it and believe that machines have taken over everything....etc.  I get that.

It was the last scene in the movie where the former VETERINARIAN does a FIELD HEART TRANSPLANT.  Seriously.......a  heart transplant.  No concern about matching even blood types.



So yes, I do want some consistency.  This recent stuff with reanimation without infection is one of those things.  That and the night/day difference.  Why are zombies such little girls in the day time and deadly killing machines at night.  Did glen and daryl really need to get knocked over by zombie randall? 

Donkbaca:
I actually took some film school classes and I disagree.

You are going in with a bias as to what you expect the zombies to be.  I think that the scene was good in that it changes the perception of what the zombies are capable of, and goes hand in hand with the people rising after not being bit.  Maybe the zombies are getting stronger?

Also, I don't think its that unrealistic to claw up an old mans abdomen, if he had long sharp nails, or exposed sharp finger bones.  Hell its certainly easier than tearing apart a cow with your bare hands.

I TOTALLY disagree with your Otis take.  It would not be realistic for Shane to ask for all that stuff or for Otis to willingly give up that stuff to an injured man, and he especially would not have given up his gun.  I think the way it went down is way more realistic, shane panics, and offs Otis and then struggles with that impulse internally.

I don't find Dale to be a father figure to the group at all, nobody looks up to him and looks to him for any sort of leadership or guidance.  To me, he is more like the nosy neighbor constantly in your business.  I don't see any similarities between him and Herschel other than their both being old white guys.

From what I remember, didn't they send Darrell in to interrogate the kid? It wasn't like he did that in secret.  I don't understand why you keep talking about redemption, the only internal struggle I see with Darrell is the guilt over leaving his brother behind.  I think he is a slef reliant person that has a well centered sense of good and bad.  I don't understand what sins he needs redeeming from.

Well Fed Games:
I'm most interested to see if we will encounter Darryl's brother again or the Father/son from season one in Atlanta.

Louis Tully:
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