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Walking Dead: Season 2
Well Fed Games:
I thought the scene between Hershel and Glenn was cool. Makes me wonder what will happen when they leave the farm. On a related note, I think it is time for them to leave the farm, if only to progress the story... the traveling caravan vibe was more interesting to me.
I will miss Dale, I feel like losing the viewpoint he brought will make the show poorer, but with so many good characters, I have no doubt there will be plenty of conflict to keep me interested.
Green Giant:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 08, 2012, 02:24:29 am ---Ragardless, nothing Dale EVER suggested put the group in danger, intentionally or not. People are making decisions right now based on the fear of what could happen... not on facts or evidence, just fearful speculation. Someone's instincts no matter how accurate, is not grounds for killing someone. Remember, we are seeing the story from the view of a third party.... we have privy to insight that they don't have.
I will happily agree that they are all stupid though. I really wish that one of these days a show/comic/whatever came out where the protagonists were given at least an above average level of intelligence. It seems like all heroes are dummies.
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I don't think he suggested let's put everyone in direct danger, but his viewpoint lacked any alternative. I almost understand the group decision to execute since they were faced with the option of kill him or set him free.
I guess I personally hate when people have dissenting opinions and never offer an alternative. It is one reason why most politicians infuriate me.....well annoy. Damn my engineering mind.
Mikezilla:
Im with GG on this regarding the fact that Dale kept saying "DONT KILL HIM!!!" on the verge of tears, but he didnt say any alternative what to do with him. You have to keep in mind Howard, this is a show. Most of the logical stuff we would do would not make for an interesting show, there always needs to be conflict or else it would be boring, and we would turn the channel or cancel our DVR recording. They arent "stupid" per se, they are acting as to what would happen if a zombie apocalypse was real, and what the writers tell them to do. Its not like we are watching Batman survive or something. ;)
What bugged me about the episode was that the kid never said that he would denounce his other group, help out, and stay there etc. He was just pleading all the time. Thats not going to get you anywhere. I still think its kind of lame Rick even saved him in the first place... I feel like the writers kind of had a case of writers block to fill up those two episodes, and this is what they filled it with.
--- Quote from: thefearsomefearful on March 08, 2012, 08:30:45 am ---I thought the scene between Hershel and Glenn was cool. Makes me wonder what will happen when they leave the farm. On a related note, I think it is time for them to leave the farm, if only to progress the story... the traveling caravan vibe was more interesting to me.
I will miss Dale, I feel like losing the viewpoint he brought will make the show poorer, but with so many good characters, I have no doubt there will be plenty of conflict to keep me interested.
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Totally this. I agree with all of this. The farm has been played out, and the traveling aspect had more appeal, and more possibilities for things to happen. I wont really miss Dale honestly... I know he was the voice of reason and all, but he was kind of whiney, keep the guns from Andrea (who is a ---smurfette--- in and of itself) then his whining about the kid... Im not saying kill him or anything, but they didnt really show him that much this season aside from his crying about something, or his "what the hell is going on, Im old" face. :dunno
Donkbaca:
Dale's alternative is to give the kid a chance to prove his worth to the group. You think about it, that makes sense, since they sort of went out of their way to save Rick in the first place. The argument for killing him is that he shot at the guys in the town, making him a bad guy, so he must be dealt with. His introdcution to the group through the use of violence against the group automatically makes him an outsider, its hard to trust that someone won't turn against you, when they already sort of did the first time you saw him. Dale's point is that this kid was a victim of circumstance, was stuck in a bad situation, and given a chance, might be helpful to the group. That he is not inherently an enemy of the group and that his allegiance to the other group was one of convenience. I don't see any of this as being stupid or simple, but maybe that's just my perspective.
I think saving the kid was essential to the character of Rick. He's a good guy that has to struggle with the situational morality of it all. He had no problems shooting first and not trusting the guys in the bar, and the fact that he was the one that killed Sophia is significant. He's becoming a more complex character, in stark contrast to Shane who is devolving into a pure black and white, us versus them morality universe.
I think Dale was a good foil to Shane, because he has a black and white view of morality as well that is just the opposite of Shane's.
The farm is getting old. It was interesting when there was conflict between Herschel and the group, but with Herschel turning into an old puppy dog, it runs the risk of devolving into little house on the prarie - with zombies. The travelling aspect is what made the first season so good, when they made it to the CDC and got to eat hot meals and shower, it really was cool to almost empathize with the joy of simple luxuries that they had.
Mikezilla:
--- Quote ---The travelling aspect is what made the first season so good, when they made it to the CDC and got to eat hot meals and shower, it really was cool to almost empathize with the joy of simple luxuries that they had.
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Very good point. There are only 2 episodes left, so who knows when the 3rd season will start. Maybe they will show something at Comic con this year.
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