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Green Giant:

--- Quote from: Donkbaca on March 05, 2012, 07:53:46 pm ---I am banking that something happens so that they leave the farm, at least I am hoping so, others it will just turn into some ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- up little house on the prairie.
I think what is going to happen is that Randall's group invades the farm, and then Randall helps them escape, vindicating Dale.  There is no way that Dale dies and ends up being wrong about saving the kid.

It sucks that they killed Dale, he made everything much more interesting, though I did think he was annoying.

I think Darrell has no interest in being a leader, he's a follower, he doesn't like the responsibility of being in charge.  He hasn't shown any inclination of trying to take charge.

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I think that character within Daryl makes for a great leader.

A great leader is not someone who wants to lead but someone who when called to lead steps up to the challenge. 

It is fair to say that Daryl had the most effed up background of anyone on the show prior to the apocalypse, and yet he somehow seems the most stable and normal of all of them barring Glen.



Also, he is a Boondock Saint. 

garnerb350:

--- Quote from: Green Giant on March 06, 2012, 12:12:05 pm ---Also, he is a Boondock Saint. 

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 :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Donkbaca:
I am just waiting for Gebeet to confront Lori in front of the group so that that they can all see what a that are she is.

Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: Green Giant on March 05, 2012, 07:38:33 pm ---I do still think there is one more moral ear left in the camp, Daryl.  I find everything he does on the show to be the most sensible while still remaining moral.

There is a line between Shane's ultra-survival mode and Dale's ultra-humanity mode, and the one walking that line so far is Daryl.  My only hope is that he takes over some more and leads them instead of abandoning them.

+1 for Daryl in my book.  

Plus it might even be possible that Daryl makes the first ever transition as an original character in a TV show based on a comic to the actual comic.

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I like daryl as a character, but unfortunately your logic is flawed.  You can't be "sort of moral" either you are or you aren't.  If you aren't then you've lost.. case closed.  Daryl was going to kill the boy just before Dale got attacked.  Now he didn't... maybe Dale's death will be the kick in the pants he needs to travel back on the straight and narrow, but if he's going to start thinking like that then he's probably too far gone.


Also you guys must have not read the comics a lot... the kid will turn out to screw over the group.  I think that was my point before and Dale's in his speech, bad things are going to happen anyway, so the least they can do is not turn into bad people.  There is no vindication in terms of results... doing the right thing is it's own reward.  If you are expecting one then you are doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

Green Giant:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 07, 2012, 02:08:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: Green Giant on March 05, 2012, 07:38:33 pm ---I do still think there is one more moral ear left in the camp, Daryl.  I find everything he does on the show to be the most sensible while still remaining moral.

There is a line between Shane's ultra-survival mode and Dale's ultra-humanity mode, and the one walking that line so far is Daryl.  My only hope is that he takes over some more and leads them instead of abandoning them.

+1 for Daryl in my book.  

Plus it might even be possible that Daryl makes the first ever transition as an original character in a TV show based on a comic to the actual comic.

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I like daryl as a character, but unfortunately your logic is flawed.  You can't be "sort of moral" either you are or you aren't.  If you aren't then you've lost.. case closed.  Daryl was going to kill the boy just before Dale got attacked.  Now he didn't... maybe Dale's death will be the kick in the pants he needs to travel back on the straight and narrow, but if he's going to start thinking like that then he's probably too far gone.


Also you guys must have not read the comics a lot... the kid will turn out to screw over the group.  I think that was my point before and Dale's in his speech, bad things are going to happen anyway, so the least they can do is not turn into bad people.  There is no vindication in terms of results... doing the right thing is it's own reward.  If you are expecting one then you are doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

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I feel like he still has some moral tendencies even though he was taking part in the execution.  Although it was Rick about to kill him until the little brat walked in.

Daryl is constantly asked to make the hard decisions like questioning the kid, and he does that but I just get the feeling he did it for the group instead of for pleasure.  Could you imagine if Shane had done the questioning?


There are different shades of morality as well.  There is Dale's maintain everything from past life.  There is Shane's kill anyone who gets in the way of me surviving no matter how little they may or may not impede me.  There is Rick's I can do anything so long a I justify it as protecting my family.

And then there is Daryl's do what I can to ensure other's survive morality.  I feel as though his is a more realistic view of the world without abandoning all humanity.  I loved Dale's speech but I also hated his lack of offering a workable alternative.  Why did he not say lock the boy up for one month and then drop him off in a remote location 50-75 miles away?

I don't think he is the leader now, but I know if called to lead he would do the best in the group.  I think he would most likely let the kid go if he called the shots, but with a little more common sense than some bus depot I didn't check for walkers.

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