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Walking Dead: Season 2
Howard_Casto:
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--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 23, 2011, 12:40:44 am ---Zombies indeed only eat living things, this is why they fed them live chickens instead of killing them first. This is actually true in the animal kingdom.... some species refuse to eat anything dead unless you practically cram it down their throat.
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Really? You actually believe this? Most predators actually kill their meals before eating them. A lot of predators are also opportunistic scavengers and will feed off something that has been dead for a while. It takes months to pick a whale carcass clean off the bottom of the ocean. Many animals are necrophagists.
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I think you missed the "some" in my statement. Of course many predators eat dead things, that wasn't my point. The point was that there are species that avoid/aren't attracted to dead carcases. This is because a lot of predators, like ourselves can get ill by the diseases and bacteria found on a rotting corpse. It's common sense really.
Whales aren't a great example of what you were getting at btw because they are an aquatic creature (the rules are different in the ocean), they are mostly blubber, which doesn't rot as quickly as other flesh, they are HUGE and the cold salt water preserves the corpse a lot longer than one rotting out in the sun.
It's also common sense that when I said that zombies eat "live" food that they START to eat the food when it's alive. The victim would be dead from the first bite or two, it doesn't mean that they walk away and live the rest to rot. Zombies, like most predators are more likely to go after live, preferably injured food then something that isn't moving because their senses are limited to that of a human... a human that's partially rotted to boot. It isn't that they wouldn't eat a recently killed chicken, for example, it's that they couldn't FIND the chicken without it squaking about. Again this is also true in the animal kingdom... just try catching a fish with a live, wriggling worm vs a dead one.
garnerb350: Nope you are wrong. Go back and re-read.
Mikezilla:
Of course these are pretend creatures, so we can only just speculate, but the virus/plauge/wrath of Khan/whatever that reanimates the dead probably causes the urge to eat things as a means to spread the infection. Also in the Walking Dead universe the Romero Films and the "hollywood zombie" just don't exist. This is why they are referred to as "walkers" and not zombies because there they don't equate the terms in their world. So the survivial guide (which is awesome) doesn't exist there.
The reason they are feeding them is because Hershel is crazy. He thinks they can be "cured" and thus he's trying to keep them nourished. Crazy is the only explaination because any normal person would give up on the feeding once they turned green and their faces started falling off.
Bootay:
Howard,
I have just spent the last 2 weeks reading all of the comics and am currently still reading them, and garnerb350 is right actually. Anyone who dies, bitten or not becomes a zombie. Unless you were referring to something else garner350 said. Also, in the comic they do refer to them as "zombies". Walkers and roamers for the most part, but they do say "zombies" occasionally.
Nephasth:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 24, 2011, 03:56:55 am ---I think you missed the "some" in my statement. Of course many predators eat dead things, that wasn't my point. The point was that there are species that avoid/aren't attracted to dead carcases. This is because a lot of predators, like ourselves can get ill by the diseases and bacteria found on a rotting corpse. It's common sense really.
Whales aren't a great example of what you were getting at btw because they are an aquatic creature (the rules are different in the ocean), they are mostly blubber, which doesn't rot as quickly as other flesh, they are HUGE and the cold salt water preserves the corpse a lot longer than one rotting out in the sun.
It's also common sense that when I said that zombies eat "live" food that they START to eat the food when it's alive. The victim would be dead from the first bite or two, it doesn't mean that they walk away and live the rest to rot. Zombies, like most predators are more likely to go after live, preferably injured food then something that isn't moving because their senses are limited to that of a human... a human that's partially rotted to boot. It isn't that they wouldn't eat a recently killed chicken, for example, it's that they couldn't FIND the chicken without it squaking about. Again this is also true in the animal kingdom... just try catching a fish with a live, wriggling worm vs a dead one.
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I'll give you the whale in the water thing, but a grizzly bear will bury a half eaten elk (an elk they didn't origianally kill) carcass and come back to it a week later to finish it off. Why would zombies need to worry about diseases and bacteria from the food they eat? I catch fish all the time with out live bait, like ice fishing for trout with Powerbait. Fish have a very good sense of smell. Still don't understand why a zombie wouldn't eat rotting flesh, nasty, smelly, rotting flesh.
AtomSmasher:
--- Quote from: Nephasth on November 24, 2011, 11:23:42 am ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 24, 2011, 03:56:55 am ---I think you missed the "some" in my statement. Of course many predators eat dead things, that wasn't my point. The point was that there are species that avoid/aren't attracted to dead carcases. This is because a lot of predators, like ourselves can get ill by the diseases and bacteria found on a rotting corpse. It's common sense really.
Whales aren't a great example of what you were getting at btw because they are an aquatic creature (the rules are different in the ocean), they are mostly blubber, which doesn't rot as quickly as other flesh, they are HUGE and the cold salt water preserves the corpse a lot longer than one rotting out in the sun.
It's also common sense that when I said that zombies eat "live" food that they START to eat the food when it's alive. The victim would be dead from the first bite or two, it doesn't mean that they walk away and live the rest to rot. Zombies, like most predators are more likely to go after live, preferably injured food then something that isn't moving because their senses are limited to that of a human... a human that's partially rotted to boot. It isn't that they wouldn't eat a recently killed chicken, for example, it's that they couldn't FIND the chicken without it squaking about. Again this is also true in the animal kingdom... just try catching a fish with a live, wriggling worm vs a dead one.
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I'll give you the whale in the water thing, but a grizzly bear will bury a half eaten elk (an elk they didn't origianally kill) carcass and come back to it a week later to finish it off. Why would zombies need to worry about diseases and bacteria from the food they eat? I catch fish all the time with out live bait, like ice fishing for trout with Powerbait. Fish have a very good sense of smell. Still don't understand why a zombie wouldn't eat rotting flesh, nasty, smelly, rotting flesh.
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Considering that zombies don't need to eat to survive, it's really just a means to spread the disease, it makes perfect sense that they wouldn't go after anything that was dead.
Nephasth:
That's a great point. But then why continue to consume the whole body of the victim?
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