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vcoleiro1:
Ok, so I watched the movie last night with a friend. I wont spoil the story line but just say that the film was ok, not great, not bad, just ok. Is it worth watching?. Yes , I think its worth seeing. Is it as good as the 1982 John Carpenter movie ? No, but it does have some of the elements the 82 version did. ie the who's the thing and who's human element. The biggest problem I have with the movie is timing, it moved a little to quickly for you to feel fear or anxiety for the characters as it just whipped over some of the good stuff. For example the whole atmosphere of fear about who was real and who wasn't , was lost as these scenes went by to quickly to appreciate the atmosphere they were trying to create.

If you watch it, stay for the credits , there's a scene played during the credits which ties it into the 82 version. Worst attempt ever in my opinion to try and create a prequel just by adding an adhoc scene in the credits. No wonder people are still calling it a remake rather than a prequel .

Anyway 3/5 for me.

danny_galaga:

--- Quote from: vcoleiro1 on October 15, 2011, 10:45:22 pm ---Ok, so I watched the movie last night with a friend. I wont spoil the story line but just say that the film was ok, not great, not bad, just ok. Is it worth watching?. Yes , I think its worth seeing. Is it as good as the 1982 John Carpenter movie ? No, but it does have some of the elements the 82 version did. ie the who's the thing and who's human element. The biggest problem I have with the movie is timing, it moved a little to quickly for you to feel fear or anxiety for the characters as it just whipped over some of the good stuff. For example the whole atmosphere of fear about who was real and who wasn't , was lost as these scenes went by to quickly to appreciate the atmosphere they were trying to create.

If you watch it, stay for the credits , there's a scene played during the credits which ties it into the 82 version. Worst attempt ever in my opinion to try and create a prequel just by adding an adhoc scene in the credits. No wonder people are still calling it a remake rather than a prequel .

Anyway 3/5 for me.

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I noticed Ennio Moricone did the score for both (",)

Just watched the opening credits for the 1982 version. Might rewatch the whole thing...

danny_galaga:
Ok, now I've rewatched the 1982 version I honestly can't see why people don't consider it a prequel? It's almost seamless  :dunno

and is more enjoyable the second time around after having seen the prequel. At the end of the prequel you have the Norwegian chopper LKK land, a dog bursts out of a building and the chopper with gunman gives chase. At the beginning of the 1982 version, you see Norwegian chopper LKK chasing down the dog, land near the American base etc etc. Exactly the same chopper.

The prequel copies the Norwegian set as much as possible from the 1982 version. The basement with the block of ice looks the same. Even the block of ice with the middle section missing. At the end, we see a guy has cut his own throat just like in the 1982 version. We end up with a two headed monster that gets burnt in the prequel, that the Americans in the 1982 version take back to their base. A little less seamless is the UFO crash site though. In the 1982 movie, the Norwegians blew up the ice around it to get to it. In the prequel they find a tunnel which leads to the crash site 100 meters or more under the surface.

What I didn't enjoy about the 1982 version the first time I saw it (aside form the dated effects, which this time around didn't bother me as much) was the fact it was quite different to the short story. In the short story, they find the alien and decide to thaw it out.  In the story one of the humans disables the station aircraft by smashing the magnetos. He knows the alien will want to leave for a populated area and knows he's gonna have to die there with the alien to save humanity. In the 1982 version, the helicopter is disabled by Blair, seemingly for similar reasons to the story, but later McReady etc find a hidden warren where Blair appears to have been building an aircraft of some sort with parts from the helicopter.

In a general sense, the prequel more closely fits the original story, the 1982 version being a true sequel of the book, if not the 1950s movie. I can't for the life of me remember how the book ends. If I can find it (it was in a book of short sci fi stories of various authors) I'll read it again. Just going to check wiki for the 1950s movie. Ok, the 1950's movie is the least like the original story, other than having an optimistic ending. In the book three guys survive, having just prevented The Thing from taking off in it's aircraft, and there's no hint that any of them are alien. Happy ending (",)

Now I've watched it again, I like the way the 1982 film ends, with two of them, and not knowing if maybe one is alien or not.

Hmmm, read a synopsis of the book, and actually most of the characters are in the 1982 movie, and Blair builds an aircraft! So actually, the main difference to the original story is there was only an American base, and it is they who thaw out the alien. It was still such a different beginning to the book that I didn't like it the first time I saw it. The blood test made it to the 1982 movie too. Wasn't sure if it was in the book or not...



So, the two together work quite well. Watch this years, and then revisit the 1982 version.

gryhnd:

--- Quote from: danny_galaga on October 14, 2011, 09:57:34 am ---Saw the original movie for the first time only a few years ago and boy were the effects dated.

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Just to point out, the 1982 version is not the original. The original (The Thing from Another World) is from 1951

Mikezilla:
In the end of the 82 version, it is implied that Childs is the alien, because when he breathes, no breath is shown due to the cold. If you notice, Macready is blowing all kinds of breath, while childs doesnt. They leave it at that. I think they should have made a sequel, and they go to the site and see macready frozen in the ice, and they find childs off somewhere like he tried to get away... I dont know, something like that.

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