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t3design:

--- Quote ---Last year called.  They want their argument back.   ;D

This used to be valid, when Linux meant text and a bash prompt.  Now, my 70 year old mother uses a netbook with Ubuntu on it and the only way she knows it's not her old windows machine is that it crashes a lot less.

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I don't even have to comment on that.


--- Quote ---Now, Im not fully educated in Jobs backgroud, but did he actually create any of the technology used in his devices, or does he have a R&D department within Apple? REAL genius/innovation to me, is actually creating those things. If he did, then Ill agree with the masses, that he was in fact a genius.

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Innovation is not limited to the creation of something completely new. The vast majority of 'new' products, ideas or processes are simply slightly improved versions or combinations of older ideas. What makes someone genius is the ability to see connections in the world around you that no one else sees and then create a new direction, product or process from that vision. Jobs was not a God. He might not have even been a very good person. He was a genius. What he did with Apple is something that is rarely seen in business and technology. Of course he took the ideas and technology that were around him and incorporated them into Apple's products. Only a fool would spend resources duplicating work that had already been done. The way he saw technology intertwined into daily life was not a vision anyone else had or championed. Looking back now it is easy for naysayers to sit around and say "it would have happened sooner or later", but it didn't. Jobs made it happen when no one else was thinking about it.

And for all the non-apple fans out there. If it weren't for Apple and Jobs you wouldn't have your Windows that crashes a lot less. (I'll keep my Macs that don't ever crash at all)




bishmasterb:
Dismissing the importance of what Jobs did in leading the original Macintosh team as merely "stealing from Xerox" is simplistic and inaccurate.

Here are a couple of brief accounts of the visits to PARC:

http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=On_Xerox,_Apple_and_Progress.txt

http://www-sul.stanford.edu/mac/parc.html

yotsuya:

--- Quote from: t3design on October 08, 2011, 10:50:40 am ---(I'll keep my Macs that don't ever crash at all)

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I do enough Mac tech support at work to verify that this isn't completely true.

Ed_McCarron:

--- Quote from: yotsuya on October 08, 2011, 08:11:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: t3design on October 08, 2011, 10:50:40 am ---(I'll keep my Macs that don't ever crash at all)

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I do enough Mac tech support at work to verify that this isn't completely true.

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Yup.  Awful lot of hits on google for 'kernel panic...'

jimfath:

--- Quote from: yotsuya on October 08, 2011, 08:11:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: t3design on October 08, 2011, 10:50:40 am ---(I'll keep my Macs that don't ever crash at all)

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I do enough Mac tech support at work to verify that this isn't completely true.

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Ditto. I found at work that, proportionately, they averaged about the same amount of trouble tickets as the PC's. Heavy lifting on both from graphics with macs to massive data queries with PCs.  The claims of mac infallibly is more a result of marketing based perceptions. I've had to clean up my parents PC and macbook for a not so computer savvy comparison.

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