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RIP Steve Jobs (1955-2011)

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Ond:

--- Quote from: saint on October 05, 2011, 10:45:17 pm ---I cut my teeth back in the day on an Apple II during a summer "introduction to computers" course taught at the local college when I was in high school, and my life and career were set in motion after that. I jumped ship to a Commodore 64 but if not for that class who knows where my life might have taken me? This site might not exist for one thing. Thank you Steve.

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Funny you should mention the jump to the C64, back in the day I was installing Apple IIe units in a College i was working in at the time, but on my desk I had a C64.  Students running 'Zardax' (a prehistoric word processor) on their Apple green screens could hear the dude in the office playing err,  I mean 'using' his C64.  As history showed us Commodore didn't move with the times and Apple did.  I got my start in puters on a Tandy (Radio Shack) TRS 80 with 4K of ram.

drventure:
Yep. I too started out around that time.

First on an HP48 (I think) programmable calculator, then on a Trs80, the a Commodore 64, and finally, my dad popped for an Apple II+. I remember being super excited about getting the "80Column video card extension" for that.

Jobs certainly made his mark on computing. Not sure I'd have wanted to work with or for the man, but there's no denying he was a visionary.

Definitely a sad day.

BobA:
Jobs definately left his mark and was a great mover in the computer industry.  I do not believe that Apple will be the same without him.  RIP Steve  :'( :'(

danny_galaga:

--- Quote from: Necro on October 05, 2011, 10:39:39 pm ---Honestly, while he did some cool stuff with apple in the beginning, in the end (and what everyone knows him for) he was just a CEO that was willing to take major risks that aesthetically pleasing products would sell over those that had better specs, capabilities, etc., and was a complete ---meecrob--- bag businessman in dealing with competitors (and customers).  To say he personally redefined everything is ridiculous - he let the engineers and designers at Apple have more of a say than the did at other places, he didn't invent the iPod, iPad and OS himself - and half the features/things Apple devices have are simply redo's/ripoffs of features smaller software companies tried in their own software that Apple saw, liked, ripped off, and didn't pay them for (e.g., bookshelf view on the iPad for one).

Sad he died so young - just goes to show you that for some things, money doesn't mean anything. 

(Note on the above: the way he's been deified in the past and the similar treatment now just pisses me off...sorry...that and if I don't vent I'm going to start a shitstorm by posting something similar on facebook)

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Yes, because being an amazingly successful CEO is childs play  ::)

Howard_Casto:
I was never a fan of the "new" apple.  I was never a fan of it's products.  I was never a fan of Job's business tactics. 

For me the new apple was a symbol of everything that's wrong with modern society.  Since the late 90's apple would take a product or concept that already exists, spend millions of dollars designing  a new case and a fancy marketing scheme, and come up with a "pretty" product that costs roughly 2-5 times that of thier competators.  These products sold well anyway, because there is a huge chunk of society that refuses to carry around anything "ugly" and an even greater chunk that can't be bothered to properly learn how to use a complex device.  Sure many apple products are user friendly, if by user friendly you mean that you lock down the software and third party development on a device so tight that nothing useful can be done with it. 

Apple has started to change over the last couple of years though, going back to the "old" apple where they just built a really nice product and left it up to you with how you should play with it.  (See the ipad.)  Unfortunately for the church of Jobs, this probably has to do with the fact that his illness kept him from having as active a role as he used to. 

So I agree with a lot of the comments thus far, apple won't be the same without him.  That is a GOOD thing though. 


That being said, his early contributions in the computer industry cannot be ignored.  People forget that there was a time when apple made computers, and not over-priced art pieces like they do today.  Anybody alive in the 80's and early 90's grew up on those systems, myself included and they were a joy to use, inspiring a lot of what a modern computer is.  Back then Job's was almost directly responsible for the products the company made, and for that, I will always respect him.  If he hadn't made increasingly stupid decisions like not allowing windows to run of apple computers, I honestly feel that apple would be more dominant today than they are now.

Of course a man has died, a man that from everybody's account was a farily decent individual who also went to great lengths to give back to his community.  We should remember him for that, and not the over-priced consumer-electronics graveyard he left as a legacy.

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