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SETI - Why look for Alien life when the odds are they have found us

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fallacy:
Everyone needs to watch all 8 Episodes on How the Universe Works. It puts everything into perspective

http://movies.netflix.com/WiPlayer?movieid=70208976&trkid=3325854

I think this was the most fascinating show I have ever watched.

Louis Tully:
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Rando:
Do I think there is something out there?  Sure, maybe.  But an old X-Files episode summed up my belief pretty well.  What are we doing right now both in space, in oceans, and in the earth? We're sending out probes and such to learn more.  We'll eventually be able to follow these probes up with manned missions in the far future,  but for now, we're sending satellites, cameras, etc.

IF there are some alien races at or above our intelligence levels, they're probably doing the same things.  A lot easier to map the universe with probes and bots and such which you can then follow after to the more interesting places.  We're likely not going to be visited by grey/green men in big flashy ships, but we could get hit by something resembling a Mars Rover or such.  The X-Files episode featured these tiny little robot bugs I believe, that were exploring and collecting data.

If we get hit with something not of this world, I'm guessing scientists could trace back to find out where it came from and bingo, in 1,000 years we can go visit! :)

 :pics

Donkbaca:
There are lots of people in this world who really could give a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- if there is alien life.  Not hard to imagines that there are races of aliens that just wouldn't give a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- enough to look.  The bigger and more complex a society gets, the more effort and energy gets expended to keep that society together.  Maybe they aren't looking for us because they frankly have better things to do.  Just like 99.99% of the people on this planet aren't looking for them, because we have better, more important ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- to take care of

SavannahLion:
To start....

--- Quote --- “It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.” ― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
--- End quote ---

Point being is, while I believe there is life out there, one might as well treat that fact as none exists and move forward accordingly.


Moving along...


--- Quote from: menace on October 02, 2011, 07:47:28 pm ---Eric Von Daniken--even if 99% of the stuff he talks about is utter crap, he has tons of pictures from all over the world that are not explained easily unless you invoke the "they did it for religious reasons" crap that some people spout when they can't explain it.  Our modern archealogical equivalent of "god did it"

Nan Madol for one--given the location, materials on hand, use of outrigger canoes etc. its a feat of engineering to have constructed that vast complex..

Nazca--not the lines--the completely flat mountain tops surrounded by peaked mountains

vast underground caves in turkey--again, just the size of it makes it difficult to believe ancient man just went digging

lots more--ancient aliens believe it  :soapbox: :dunno :cheers:

--- End quote ---

More credence could probably be given to a rise and fall of civilization and what you're seeing are the left of remnents of such.  Given the following, A) that as our technology becomes more sophisticated, it becomes more fragile, leave an arcade cabinet outside for a year with no cover and see what you have at the end of it. B) due to the specialization of knowledge of individuals through sophistication and refinement that a society loses more of the vertical knowledge for individuals. Ergo, just because a person knows how to assemble and solder a PCB does not mean that that person knows how to fabricate their own ICs. and C) those who do not understand the tech will scavange what they can until, eventually, you have nothing of note left.

What remains are bits and pieces.

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