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JODY:
To each his own.  I'd personally move Frogger and Star Wars up and to the right.  Other than that, I think we have a lot of game tastes in common.  Go Robotron!
Vulgar Soul:

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--- Quote from: Mozii on September 27, 2011, 02:51:10 am ---Lol now hold up. Is Centipede all that bad or are you bad at Centipede lol. Jus jokin. I like Centipede almost as much as GnG (...almost). I love retro shmups like that centiped, galaga, or juno first. Millipede on the other hand is a piece of garbage.


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I think Millipede is an improvement in just about every way over Centipede, including more variety/less repetitiveness, increased game speed and difficulty, all without radical changes to the original game.  It also has that rare quality where you get in a zen-like trance while you are kicking ass, sort of like Robotron.  It's one of the few great sequels I can think of.

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Centipede didn't have a whole lotta frills but to me it's one of the most balanced 80s shmups ever. In terms of the game's pace, speed, difficulty, controls, and overall fun factor, Centipede was just a very balanced and well made game. I felt like a lot of the improvements added in Millipede only got in the way and ruined the consistency of the original. The game just feels a bit too quick, confusing, and choppy to me. Their attempts to make the game better just ruined the perfect formula if you ask me. It's not a bad game on it's own merits, but it's like Donkey Kong 3. Compared to it's predecessor it jus feels bland.

Now Missile Command, there's a borin ass game I jus couldn't get into.
Level42:

--- Quote from: RayB on September 26, 2011, 11:53:57 am ---I'm glad to see Berzerk down in the corner. It's a slow game with awkward controls. But Crystal Castles? come on man....

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Slow ? HAHAHAHAHA. Let me see you respond in the first second of a new level above the 10000 score.

Awkward controls ? Left, right, up, down, diagonal and a fire button, what's awkward about that ?

Berzerk (WITH A ZZZZZZZ not BerSerk !) is a brilliant game. I would rate it low as liked in the past. Although I never played the arcade version BITD I played it a lot on the A8 (which is almost a perfect conversion). Thought it was a fun game then, but nothing special.

Now I own the cab....I love it. I think I easily rate it 2nd after my SW cockpit as my favorite.

By the way, Centipede is brilliant too. Can't understand it's getting so much bashing here...

I think DK would be completely up in the right corner for me though...
yotsuya:

--- Quote from: Level42 on September 28, 2011, 06:46:20 pm ---By the way, Centipede is brilliant too. Can't understand it's getting so much bashing here...

I think DK would be completely up in the right corner for me though...

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Actually, only one person has consistantly bashed it. Most of us like it and recognize why it's a classic. I don't think it's a gimmick at all. Arm Wrestling? Now THAT'S a gimmick-y controller!
Vigo:
Yep, for the record, even though centipede is not my cup of tea, I recognize that it is a very involved game. Probably more strategic than most games at the time. I never quite worked out a good technique, but I am guessing it has to do with how and where you take out the mushrooms.
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