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Donkbaca:
To those new to the thread here is a summary:
Everyone: - Science is all pixie dust and make believe"
Pdoolittle: - No its not, its actually a well thought out series of reasoned, provable thought
Everyone - Its all just theory, its a waste of time, we don't know anything and can prove anything
PD - Um, actually we CAN prove some stuff, and thanks to what we have grown to understand we have created things like that computer which you are using your clunky neandrathal hands on right now
Everyone - its all just opinion, nothing is real
PD - actually there is thing called the scientific method, and yes it is real
Everyone - what makes you think your opinions are better than ours?
PD - I am a scientist with hands on intricate knowledge
Everyone - I don't see how you can think your views are any better than mine
PD - but I am a scientist, its sort of my job to understand these things
Everyone - I think everyone's opinions should be treated the same
PD - But its not opinion, I am just trying to educate you people about what is going on
Everyone - we don't need no education
Everyone - Hey I love Pink Floyd!
Everyone - Pink is such a a lame-o color, and what is with the Wizard of Oz TOTALLY ripping off dark side of the moon, or something like that!
PD - (shakes head and walks away)
Hoopz:
It's always a treat when someone says "I'm not going to waste any more time..." and then they post 25 more times before the thread goes to Post Hell.
:applaud:
Vigo:
I have to laugh because pldoolittle is proving EXACTLY my point through his argument. My only point has been that there are crap theories out there that much scientific community bites on and calls a true theory even without any form of real proof, and if one questions these "theories", a belittling tirade will ensue from much of the scientific community. Dark matter theory being the biggest of these proclaimed theories. Time and time again they failed to find proof, yet call it a theory. I am not saying it is true or false, I am saying that that they are jumping the gun when calling it scientific theory. This is elementary science, you have to prove your hypothesis.
Instead of pldoolittle showing me scientifically how there is any proof showing that 80% of the universe is dark matter, he jumps on me, displays "superiority" by boasting his science skillz, takes my words way out of context, and rabidly insist that I am wrong to question the validity of this unproven theory...even though scientific method is designed to question everything. Yet in all this, he could have simply proved the theory to begin with, which he, nor any scientist can do. The one link mentioned earlier is not proof either. Speculation is not a replacement for prediction and observation. Hence the core problem, much of the scientific community does not follow the scientific method.
I'm not calling the data or research bad, these are good things. It's just presumptuous to call them "true until disproven" theories. In doing so it cuts down and belittle alternate ideas that arise, which is critical to scientific advancement.
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on September 24, 2011, 08:21:27 pm ---Meh, we coulda done this 20 years ago in America but Congress pulled the plug and devastated my town!
There's no monetary value in this discovery and millions are still dying from malaria. The Swiss should go back to making sour cheese.
--- End quote ---
To quote Benjamin Franklin- "what use is a new born baby?"
There is no reason why research can't be had in physics AND malarial issues. You haven't made a valid argument for anything since the two subjects aren't related- People are still dying in car accidents for lack of safety advances, therefore there should be no more development in the field of agriculture...
Seems to me we are going to hear that these results aren't what they first appeared to be. But all knowledge is valid.
Ond:
--- Quote from: Donkbaca on September 27, 2011, 11:50:57 am ---To those new to the thread here is a summary:
Everyone: - Science is all pixie dust and make believe"
Pdoolittle: - No its not, its actually a well thought out series of reasoned, provable thought
Everyone - Its all just theory, its a waste of time, we don't know anything and can prove anything
PD - Um, actually we CAN prove some stuff, and thanks to what we have grown to understand we have created things like that computer which you are using your clunky neandrathal hands on right now
Everyone - its all just opinion, nothing is real
PD - actually there is thing called the scientific method, and yes it is real
Everyone - what makes you think your opinions are better than ours?
PD - I am a scientist with hands on intricate knowledge
Everyone - I don't see how you can think your views are any better than mine
PD - but I am a scientist, its sort of my job to understand these things
Everyone - I think everyone's opinions should be treated the same
PD - But its not opinion, I am just trying to educate you people about what is going on
Everyone - we don't need no education
Everyone - Hey I love Pink Floyd!
Everyone - Pink is such a a lame-o color, and what is with the Wizard of Oz TOTALLY ripping off dark side of the moon, or something like that!
PD - (shakes head and walks away)
--- End quote ---
I enjoyed this summary more than I enjoyed this thread - more summaries please!
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