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gryhnd:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on August 23, 2011, 06:07:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: gryhnd on August 23, 2011, 05:28:28 pm ---Where I am in S.E. Mass, I didn't feel a thing, nor did my son or wife.  Neighbors however did, as well as friends who live a few miles away.

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Same here in the same spot.  Not a thing.  Lots of people saying they did to get attention, though.

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Really? Where you out of? PM if you prefer to keep it private.

Dartful Dodger:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 24, 2011, 06:16:32 pm ---Again, individuals are smart, groups of people are stupid.  So for all of your anger, you just agreed with me.

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Thanks, but I didn't lose anything. My cousin had to find another job.

I am the only one in this thread saying those steps of precaution were a good thing, but there is a group of people in this thread who think as you do.

So by your own logic, I'm the smart individual here and the rest of you are in a group of stupidity.


...and I do agree with you on that.

Vigo:
Meh, to me you are both saying the same thing, lack of a real security planning. Anytime there is an unexpected disaster, emergency authorites over a building of people need to proactively research, evaluate and execute a plan quickly and efficiently keep everyone is secure. In both your cases, it was those authorities just picking their asses and not figuring out the situation in a timely manner.

In Howard's example, evacuating the building does not equal safe, in many scenarios it is the much more dangerous place to be. If it was really part of a planned attack, then the attacker would have effectively smoked their targets right out of the building.

Dartful Dodger:

--- Quote from: Vigo on August 25, 2011, 03:45:20 pm ---In Howard's example, evacuating the building does not equal safe, in many scenarios it is the much more dangerous place to be. If it was really part of a planned attack, then the attacker would have effectively smoked their targets right out of the building.
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Speaking of researching emergency scenarios, what are you basing yours on?

In all the planned attacks in the US that I know of, the attackers just focused on the people inside of the buildings.

Vigo:
I was mostly thinking about shootings, although they historically haven't been coupled with bombings. There have been many cases of suicide bombers aiming for a crowded area of people to detonate in, and major terrorist attacks have often been multi staged, synchronized plans.

The only thing constant about successful (not sure if that is the word to use in this case) attacks is that the attack methods have always changed. That said, the smoke out tactic is nothing new. It was also a fairly common Mafia tactic in the prohibition era. Two part hit and run. They would send a person ahead to light a fire in a rival gang building. Then a second party would do a drive by when the target is evacuating. Technically, it has been used for thousands of years though.

Also, When nuclear fallout was the major worry, the last thing they would want you to do was to go outside. Today, that is still a possible scenario, although it is more likely to be from dirty bombs.

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