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RIP Amy Winehouse
eds1275:
Amy Winehouse - I don't think she was talented but she had a look and a style of her own. I didn't care for her music, but it is sad that she passed away so young.
CCM:
wow! After seeing what a train wreck she was at the end, it's hard to believe this used to be her:
shame to throw it all away..
yotsuya:
--- Quote from: CCM on July 27, 2011, 03:35:58 pm ---wow! After seeing what a train wreck she was at the end, it's hard to believe this used to be her:
shame to throw it all away..
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You're right. She looks great in that video.
Xiaou2:
Its no shock that the Trolls respond in similar fashion, banning together in the usual mob.
Vigo being overly sarcastic, and Im pretty sure Mike thinking he was being literal. Its laughable.
Yeah Vigo, theres a difference between being invasive, and using concerning behavior to spot a person who needs some assistance. This of course has nothing to do with lockups, and more to do with strengthening people who may need it before things get out of hand.
As I said, my father is a key example. If he is getting his way, you would think hes ok, but just a little odd in his behavior. Actually hes not ok.. but he puts on a good front. After a few drinks however, the facade drops, and that hidden odd behavior becomes a phobic/fear driven, irrational, violent, and crazed rage, capable of destroying others without any conscience at all.
It was only after several recent arrests that hes finally been forced into evaluations and put into programs. Had this odd behavior been caught before this... he may have had been able to control himself, able to keep a job for more than a few months tops... and not mooching off your tax dollars for his entire life of recklessness & irresponsibility.
As for the Economy, its pretty much proof in the pudding. You are able to buy the latest Ipod, only because some Chinese worker will make it for 2 pennies of labor. If that same thing was made in USA, from parts to labor... it would cost 10 times as much money... making it beyond the affordable point for the general masses.
If the Chinese raise their prices, the factories just move to somewhere else cheaper... like possibly India. Where slave labor, and living conditions, are even worse.
I know some fool may try to point to complexities not mentioned... but it doesnt change a darn thing. The reality is that economics is a corrupted joke, and that people are born slaves, with invisible ropes. (born into debt)
Of course, its all good if you are born in the right places right? But as I said before... what If you are reborn in India? What If you are born in the center city of the poorest crime ridden city? What If you are born with a condition that could have been treated, but because you were ignored, you ended up taking others lives as a result.. then spending your time behind bars?
If we have no compassion and concern for others today... its fair to say that someone else will not have compassion for us tomorrow. And that is not how we should be. Not how we should live life or raise a society.
Vigo:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on July 27, 2011, 11:58:08 pm ---Its no shock that the Trolls respond in similar fashion, banning together in the usual mob.
Vigo being overly sarcastic, and Im pretty sure Mike thinking he was being literal. Its laughable.
Yeah Vigo, theres a difference between being invasive, and using concerning behavior to spot a person who needs some assistance. This of course has nothing to do with lockups, and more to do with strengthening people who may need it before things get out of hand.
As I said, my father is a key example. If he is getting his way, you would think hes ok, but just a little odd in his behavior. Actually hes not ok.. but he puts on a good front. After a few drinks however, the facade drops, and that hidden odd behavior becomes a phobic/fear driven, irrational, violent, and crazed rage, capable of destroying others without any conscience at all.
--- End quote ---
Ok X2, I'll hear you plan out. Since you believe in policing behavior, what would you propose, in solid terms be done for people who do not break the law, but exhibit that 'concerning behavior' that you want to prevent. Lets say we have a guy who lives by himself, normal job, normal house, doesn't break any laws, but every day buys a pile of barbie dolls and takes them home, rips their heads off and covers them in ketchup while crying out the lyrics to camptown races. Obviously disturbing behavior that could be interpreted that the person may commit a violent act in the future. How do you:
* A: Propose the money you want spent on finding and catching this kind person be used
* B: Expect to not violate the right against unwarranted search and seizure.
* C: Plan to do about people who exhibit this behavior
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on July 27, 2011, 11:58:08 pm ---As for the Economy, its pretty much proof in the pudding. You are able to buy the latest Ipod, only because some Chinese worker will make it for 2 pennies of labor. If that same thing was made in USA, from parts to labor... it would cost 10 times as much money... making it beyond the affordable point for the general masses.
If the Chinese raise their prices, the factories just move to somewhere else cheaper... like possibly India. Where slave labor, and living conditions, are even worse.
--- End quote ---
See, this only shows how very little you know about global economics. Currencies do not hold the same value from country to country. While I do not have the exact currency values, I will illustrate the best that I can. Lets say someone it China made 2 dollars an hour for working in a shoe factory. That 2 dollars could buy a full meal for that person's entire family. That is something incredibly tough to to here in the US on our $7.25 minimum wage.
I worked with a friend who was a missionary worker in Africa. The town he worked in was deeply impoverished about 15 years ago when he first came. Shortly after, an american company built a factory up in the town (I think it was soap or something). People were lined up to work at that factory. The people lucky enough to work there were the wealthiest in town, and soon a marketplace emerged and the local economy began to flourish for the people who didn't work there as well. The town was industrializing and people from all around came to the town to work and start a livelihood for their families. More international business built factories and soon there was competition for the workers. The labor became more specialized, schools came in, the whole nine yards. My friend in essence witnessed industrialization in a span of 10 years take place in front of him. Every nation must go through industrialization to develop, America did. I don't know if the factories moved out of town or not, but they were no longer needed, the economy was developed enough. These factories are actually a pathway out of debt for so many people, and as you said yourself, it keeps the clothing and items we need everyday affordable for the masses, this includes for poor people in third world countries as well.
Oh, BTW, my uncle through marriage owns a number of clothing factories in China and Cambodia. My wife grew up working the floor in one of these factories during the 80's and 90's. The people were not working under rough conditions, they are not wearing loin clothes like you may envision, and they are treated like human beings. My wife knew so many people who were thankful every day for the job they had at the factory. My wife did not need to be reincarnated, as you suggest, to see what this life was like in a Chinese factory town.
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