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leapinlew:


--- Quote from: pldoolittle on July 23, 2011, 10:10:22 am ---I would definitely disagree about it being minimal. 

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I would too, but there is really no point in beating this dead horse. What we are actually arguing about is peoples different experiences. I, along with many others here, have experienced or worked through different worm attacks which occur without any user action. scofthe7seas has not. All I was doing was correcting him when he said "Well, it's not like the internet is just a cesspool, waiting to rampantly infest PCs upon connection." as that is obviously false. What happened next was him conducting a non-scientific case study for his own benefit. No harm/no foul.

Since I have lots of people on my internal network, my arcade machines risk of exposure increases significantly.



vagabound:


--- Quote from: pldoolittle on July 23, 2011, 10:10:22 am ---I would definitely disagree about it being minimal.  I manage corporate firewalls, and I see the attempted (automated) attacks numbering thousands per hour. And typical infection times for unprotected systems range from minutes to hours, depending on circumstances. 

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Can you please copy/paste a few lines of what are you talking about so we can see how do you know it was attempted attack and not something else?



--- Quote ---Did you disable Windows firewall explicitly?  It is on by default in XP.

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Firewall was supposed to be enabled. Basically the claim is firewall would be sufficient, if necessary at all, so the test was proper and it showed the fear is imaginary, or perhaps induced on purpose. The argument is that there is no danger if the computer is only connected to the internet and is not used actively, *because* simple firewall would make it impossible for another computer to even make a connection if there is no appropriate software on the local machine ready to listen, and in order to get a virus you would need to browse internet, download stuff, click links and buttons, or run some kind of server, or some "remote connection listener" software that is actually open to accept random incoming connection.



--- Quote ---Your machine may not have gotten infected, but a single data point is hardly a case study.  If you want proof, just grab the logs from any firewall or IPS that faces the net 24x7.  The attack rate is ridiculous on the public net.

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I run WinXP on this machine I surf the internet with and I don't run any anti-virus software or anything else except regular XP firewall for almost a year now, I don't even do any updates, and I have normal IP number, so my computer should be full of viruses and everything. It's just that don't see them, so please let me know where can I find this "firewall log" and what exactly should I be looking for in order to see the proof you are talking about?

vagabound:


--- Quote from: leapinlew on July 23, 2011, 06:11:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: pldoolittle on July 23, 2011, 10:10:22 am ---I would definitely disagree about it being minimal. 

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I would too, but there is really no point in beating this dead horse. What we are actually arguing about is peoples different experiences. I, along with many others here, have experienced or worked through different worm attacks which occur without any user action. scofthe7seas has not. All I was doing was correcting him when he said "Well, it's not like the internet is just a cesspool, waiting to rampantly infest PCs upon connection." as that is obviously false. What happened next was him conducting a non-scientific case study for his own benefit. No harm/no foul.

Since I have lots of people on my internal network, my arcade machines risk of exposure increases significantly.


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It seems to me you were proved wrong by scofthe7seas and actual real-world test.

Indeed the internet is not just a cesspool waiting to rampantly infest PCs upon connection. Computers can not talk between each other just like that, there has to be a software on a local machine explicitly instructed to open ports and actually LISTEN and APPROVE incoming connection REQUESTS.

The fact you personally get a lot of viruses is perhaps only evidence you are doing something wrong.

severdhed:

the real question here is, who has their mame cabinet setup so it gets their external public IP address?.....nobody.  That makes no sense. Most ISPs allow you to only pull a single IP address from them, so the only way that would work is if you have your mame cabinet pc wired directly to your modem, and it being your only PC.  the chances of that are small.  Anyone with a dedicated mame PC would also have at least one other PC that they use for internet browsing, and therefore be sitting behind a NAT router/firewall.  The question was "can your cab connect to the internet?" which implies a dedicated mame PC...and since nobody in their right mind would have their only PC in a mame cabinet, we should be able to assume that anyone with a mame cabinet is behind a router.



leapinlew:


--- Quote from: vagabound on July 23, 2011, 08:02:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: leapinlew on July 23, 2011, 06:11:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: pldoolittle on July 23, 2011, 10:10:22 am ---I would definitely disagree about it being minimal. 

--- End quote ---

I would too, but there is really no point in beating this dead horse. What we are actually arguing about is peoples different experiences. I, along with many others here, have experienced or worked through different worm attacks which occur without any user action. scofthe7seas has not. All I was doing was correcting him when he said "Well, it's not like the internet is just a cesspool, waiting to rampantly infest PCs upon connection." as that is obviously false. What happened next was him conducting a non-scientific case study for his own benefit. No harm/no foul.

Since I have lots of people on my internal network, my arcade machines risk of exposure increases significantly.


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It seems to me you were proved wrong by scofthe7seas and actual real-world test.

Indeed the internet is not just a cesspool waiting to rampantly infest PCs upon connection. Computers can not talk between each other just like that, there has to be a software on a local machine explicitly instructed to open ports and actually LISTEN and APPROVE incoming connection REQUESTS.

The fact you personally get a lot of viruses is perhaps only evidence you are doing something wrong.

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Welcome Troll!  ;D

Like I'm supposed to believe any of your lies Mr. 2 posts.

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