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| spoot:
--- Quote from: scofthe7seas on July 07, 2011, 11:39:42 am ---A question though; The pc you experienced the virus attack from doing nothing. Did you literally do nothing for the entire time it was fresh and virus free, until you were infected? No browsing, no anything? --- End quote --- I did this once on a pc that was going to be rebuilt from scratch anyways when I was bored. Fresh install of XP with no nat/firewall between it and the internet. It was totally hosed in less than a day. :lol Hell, my websites/forums/etc get attacked pretty much 24/7/365..script kiddies need to die a horrible death. :angry: |
| scofthe7seas:
We'll see we'll see! My old laptop is such crap. I actually have to reconnect the power connector inside of the damn thing. It popped out and was hanging out at the bottom of the box where it was stored. The thing is so beat up, but still ticking. I bet any viruses will be too afraid to tangle with it. That's the test though, Windows XP, no service pack, no patches, no firewall, no antivirus, for 24 hours. I will absolutely own up if it does come out infected, but until them, my skepticism is in full effect. |
| Benevolance:
I've got my cabinet internet enabled, because it gets used for lots of purposes aside from arcade games. I'd figure that most people these days have a router/firewall setup on their network - I was under the assumption that a good router is usually sufficient to stop those broad-based attacks like conficker? Am I wrong? We've never had problems with viruses on our network, so maybe I'm being a bit naive. :P Also, Lew was talking about the possibility of someone infected jumping onto his wireless connection...are you running an unsecured wireless connection? Or is it easy for someone to jump onto a secured network? |
| leapinlew:
--- Quote from: Benevolance on July 07, 2011, 06:04:43 pm ---Also, Lew was talking about the possibility of someone infected jumping onto his wireless connection...are you running an unsecured wireless connection? Or is it easy for someone to jump onto a secured network? --- End quote --- Neither, I have a lot of company and everyone travels with laptops anymore. A firewall does a good job of hiding your computer from worms. |
| Haze:
--- Quote from: scofthe7seas on July 07, 2011, 05:44:25 pm ---We'll see we'll see! My old laptop is such crap. I actually have to reconnect the power connector inside of the damn thing. It popped out and was hanging out at the bottom of the box where it was stored. The thing is so beat up, but still ticking. I bet any viruses will be too afraid to tangle with it. That's the test though, Windows XP, no service pack, no patches, no firewall, no antivirus, for 24 hours. I will absolutely own up if it does come out infected, but until them, my skepticism is in full effect. --- End quote --- Well it's well documented, being skeptical about it is like claiming the grass is blue and the sky is green. This seems to cover most of it http://www.wizcrafts.net/ans/constant_rebooting.html Might not be as bad now (many ISPs will filter it out specifically) but back in the day it was lethal on an unpatched XP / 2000 box and it's entirely possibly that somebody will find a similar exploit in the codebase today, meaning if you're not up to date with the latest patches your box will simply be hijacked. Rather important to learn from the lessons of the past. As pointed out, this can result in people installing hidden FTP servers on your machine, and distributing all kinds of nasty crap via them. It's incredibly naive to take the approach that you can only get a virus by running a nasty attachment / application and while modern versions of the operating systems do provide several extra layers of security exploits are still found daily, practically every common file and document format used by PCs today has been exploited to cause code execution at some point as well as a fair number of the communication protocols due to poorly coded software handling them. |
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