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danny_galaga:


--- Quote from: gabe on July 06, 2011, 02:24:32 pm ---While I can follow the logic, I find it interesting that so many people seem to think that the only way to keep a computer virus free is to keep it off of the internet.

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NO, but it's the easiest way. And some of us might get in a spot of bother from certain corporations should we hook up to the net and accidentally update ;)

leapinlew:


--- Quote from: scofthe7seas on July 06, 2011, 10:08:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: leapinlew on July 06, 2011, 09:17:59 pm ---If you want to see it in action. Put an unpatched Windows XP system straight on the internet with no firewall, service packs, antivirus and a real IP.

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How long should I keep it on for? At what time could I turn it off and say this test is done? I have a spare laptop. I can install Windows Xp (Not even SP1!), nothing else, and plug it directly into the cable modem.

Given an infinite amount of time, an infinite amount of monkeys can write Shakespeare, apparently, but what if they had a timeframe? The test is impossible, because if I leave it for a day, or a week, You'll say I didn't leave it on long enough.

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Do me a favor, don't put words in my mouth.

Just give it a night, but before you do this, you should lookup how long the average infection time is for an unprotected system on the internet. You should have conficker or MSBlast in no time.

Honestly, I don't care if you think a virus can infect you or not, just because you are an individual. I know they can infect your machine without you doing anything to get them. It's happened to me. Just because something doesn't happen to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Sjaak:

Infection time for a unprotected XP system (without service packs) is very small (I think it's within hours). But most pc's are not directly connected to the internet, but are behind some sort of NAT router which will stop direct attacks.

leapinlew:


--- Quote from: Sjaak on July 07, 2011, 08:16:51 am ---Infection time for a unprotected XP system (without service packs) is very small (I think it's within hours). But most pc's are not directly connected to the internet, but are behind some sort of NAT router which will stop direct attacks.

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Agreed. However, I'm just trying to demonstrate that you don't have to actively do something to get infected and if you run a network in your home where people connect (via wifi or wire) you can expose your machine very easily. scofthe7seas is under the impression that you have to do something for your machine to get infected and it's simply not true. For the record, I have no ill feelings towards Scofthe7seas. I don't appreciate him saying I would say something, but I'm not mad about it.

This relates to MAME cabs being connected to the internet since you would have to do extra maintenance on the arcade cabinet to ensure it's up to date and not vulnerable to the latest worms which could impact the machines performance.

leapinlew:


--- Quote from: kalars123 on July 06, 2011, 10:42:18 pm ---@Leapinlew
no what you describe would be "no internet safety needed", and it's not an never ending battle at least not on my end, that's why I pay company's for their software so the never ending battle is on their end, for the average joe consumer internet safety is a joke just follow your common sense keep your software/virus protection up to date, and you won't have an issue, and the only time you will have an issue is when you doing or looking at something on the net that 1. you probably shouldn't be doing anyways, 2. is illegal in your state/country.  It's that simple no amount of arguing or saying conficker is the devil is going to change it.

Like I have said I completely understand people not hooking their cabs to the net, I also just want to set it and forget it without having to worry about updating/patching..ect  But I also don't want people to think "and there a few people out there somewhere that will" that if they do connect their cab to the net that some how a virus is going to magically find it's way into their home network and steal all your financial data.

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You're part of the problem. People think they are safe cause they spent $40 on a program to protect them. If it were SO easy, I would be out of a job. I'm glad you only get a few viruses, and your buddies get a lot more. Good for you.

Sorry dude, the rules for how to avoid phishing attacks keep changing as phishers get more sophisticated. The rules on what software to protect you keeps changing. The rules for how to behave on the internet keep changing. To act as if it's as simple as spending a few bucks and your protected is asinine.


--- Quote from: kalars123 on July 06, 2011, 10:42:18 pm ---Because the likelihood of that happening almost zero.

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I know how to make it 0.  ;D The odds of someone breaking into my house are almost 0 too, but I still lock my door. I bet you do too.

In short, your better off taking extra unneeded security precautions than trying to get by with just enough.


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