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Vigo:

--- Quote from: thefearsomefearful on July 08, 2011, 01:41:27 pm ---So far the excuses for theft seem to be, "some things are overpriced," "some movies are dumb," "crime happens, so we are collectively unable to think for ourselves," and "hey, I am doing them a favor by pirating! It is publicity!" This thread is making my day! :applaud:

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Not at all. The point is that this is the future and the is no turning back. You cannot stop piracy. It will continue. The goal is to find those pirates who would have purchased the product if piracy was not a easier method, and offer them a reason to buy instead.

There are two types of pirates though. The first type would not pay for the product no matter what. Don't even consider them as revenue lost because there is nothing in the world that would convince them to make the purchase. If they couldn't get it for free, they wouldn't even touch it to begin with.

The second type is people who pirate because it is just easier and more beneficial to them to pirate rather than purchase. Those are the pirates that would be willing to purchase the product if there was incentive to do so. It is tough for content creators right now, because publishers and developers are often tied to business methods that offer no incentive for these people to make the purchase. People who have a reason to buy, will gladly do so. Rather than trying to get these people to buy, the publishers want to sue the pants off of these people, alienating potential fans and destroying the creators reputation in the process.
Vigo:
Here is a good example of how piracy was successfully turned around and used as a method to promote sales:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101021/10481211524/comic-book-pirated-on-4chan-author-joins-discussion-watches-sales-soar.shtml
wp34:

--- Quote from: Vigo on July 08, 2011, 01:54:19 pm ---

There are two types of pirates though. The first type would not pay for the product no matter what. Don't even consider them as revenue lost because there is nothing in the world that would convince them to make the purchase. If they couldn't get it for free, they wouldn't even touch it to begin with.

The second type is people who pirate because it is just easier and more beneficial to them to pirate rather than purchase. Those are the pirates that would be willing to purchase the product if there was incentive to do so. It is tough for content creators right now, because publishers and developers are often tied to business methods that offer no incentive for these people to make the purchase. People who have a reason to buy, will gladly do so. Rather than trying to get these people to buy, the publishers want to sue the pants off of these people, alienating potential fans and destroying the creators reputation in the process.

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I see what you are saying to a point.  I buy a heck of a lot more music now that I can pay Amazon one song at a time or pay $5 for an entire MP3 album.  But the original post by fallacy took a tone that anyone who pays for media is a fool.  That is what struck me as very odd world view.  I'm sure a lot of people feel this way I just was taken aback to see it in black and white.  
Vigo:
Yep, Agreed. Fallacy is pretty shameless about the whole thing. Everyone should support content creators and pay for the products they use and would otherwise be willing to pay for. That's how I roll, and I think most of us here are the same way.  :cheers:
fallacy:

--- Quote ---I see what you are saying to a point.  I buy a heck of a lot more music now that I can pay Amazon one song at a time or pay $5 for an entire MP3 album.  But the original post by fallacy took a tone that anyone who pays for media is a fool.  That is what struck me as very odd world view.  I'm sure a lot of people feel this way I just was taken aback to see it in black and white. 
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That is what I meant  :P Spend your hard earned money on this that you cant download like hardware.

No I can see it as a convince paying for media instead of trying to get it for free. For me though it is not that much of an in convince anymore. Only thing I will pay for are things that I can’t figure out how to get for free which is not a lot anymore. When I was playing WOW I was paying for it, could not figure out how to log on with a free account.

I felt kind of dirty because for the first four UFC fights we watched I chipped in to pay for it. Why am I paying for this media? Was the thought the popped into my head eventually? They actually got 1 over on me. I felt like a sheep, I basically felt like one of you guys. Live and learn, live and learn.
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