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| channelmaniac:
--- Quote from: Nephasth on July 21, 2011, 11:09:24 pm ---As rikitiki said, the BIGGER problem is on KLOV, and he only has 5 posts over there. All within the past few days, yet he's been registered over there for months (even a day before he allegedly took control of RAM). WTF. --- End quote --- Fixed. As Frizz said, there has been no proof brought forward that he actually did take control of RAM. |
| Vigo:
--- Quote from: nick3092 on July 21, 2011, 09:23:29 pm ---But if it is someone trying to make Ram legit, then last time I checked our country ran on the innocent until proven guilty platform. --- End quote --- Actually in this country, financial matters like this are often the quite the opposite. Ask anyone who has had their wages garnished if they were subject to a trial. Ask anyone who has had their wages levied if they were found guilty by a judge first. This is because legally, any purchase is considered a binding contract. Any purchase made with RAM controls is a financial obligation for RAM to either fulfill the agreement, or void the agreement by repaying the debt. In short, the fact that people have unfulfilled purchases alone deems RAM controls liable and must in turn be the ones to prove innocence. Like I mentioned before, I worked for a company that went bankrupt. Before then, we were not paying for a number of goods and services, in turn we got levied up the ass by everyone we screwed. The only thing we could do is file bankruptcy to stop the bleeding. |
| SuprSprint:
--- Quote from: Vigo on July 21, 2011, 11:28:07 pm --- --- Quote from: nick3092 on July 21, 2011, 09:23:29 pm ---then last time I checked our country ran on the innocent until proven guilty platform. --- End quote --- Actually in this country, financial matters like this are often the quite the opposite. Ask anyone who has had their wages garnished if they were subject to a trial. Ask anyone who has had their wages levied if they were found guilty by a judge first. --- End quote --- I was about to post a similar comment, but I need to correct yours a bit. You cannot execute a garnishment without first obtaining a judgment in open court. The defendant may not show up (and often does not), but you still have to present to the judge and have a ruling. As a former landlord I've been there, done that, many times.... That said, "innocent until proven guilty" ONLY applies to the government in criminal cases where the state is attempting to deprive you of life, liberty, or property. Civil matters are a simple preponderance of the evidence, with "fractions" of responsibility being common. You can even be the victim (of a car crash for example) and still be found to be 10% (or whatever) responsible. Also, a private citizen is under no burden to uphold the standard of innocent until proven guilty. For example, I have deemed Casey Anthony and will impose my sentance of her being a persona non grata should we ever cross paths. Absolutely nothing "illegal" about that. But the state/government could not prove her guilty (of a felony), and they must treat her as any other citizen henceforth. |
| SuprSprint:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on July 22, 2011, 11:12:20 am ---Which they should, because she didn't do it. --- End quote --- I disagree, but that is way OT. Let's take it here; http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=113231.0 |
| rikitiki:
Yeah BAck on topic. Wait for it.... :timebomb: |
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