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The current status of Ram Controls:
rikitiki:
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--- Quote ---I am in no way involved, but as a general rule, that seems like a really good way to get placed on the bottom of a list.
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Have you seen the list,it up to $42,000 owing to people.And being in Australia I am sure I will be at the top to start with.
Im I going to wait in the back ground and hope that something will happen, I don't think so. :angry:
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42K :o
Wait I thought this list was shrinking Dan??
thats almost double the orignal spreadsheet
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0An_RLk7EK5WtdFVhbnJBMDBCbzBoamlQZldvRTQwYXc&hl=en&authkey=CPDFuqsL#gid=0
Another FACT for you NON belivers I know ALOT of collectors who opted to stay off that list
either because they dont frequient KLOV or didnt want their amounts publicly known.
KLOV memeber STEPH took matters in their own hands and began legeal procedings against Dave/RamControls
and kept a private list of his own which would then go to the courts. Post #138 from 6-20-2011
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=176040&page=14
some Highlights for your readin enjoyment
2- Because of this thread (and KLOV Forums) I was contacted
by non-arcade victims which make our plight look like small potatoes
(... we're talking 6-figure amounts here... )
This has opened-up an entirely new dimension on the scope of Dave's thievery
and has attracted more legal and law enforcement attention.
3- Not surprisingly, alot of dirt on Dave is being uncovered
including prior convictions and court appearances.
I'd like to say more, but I know this info gets back to Dave
so I'm guarded on what I can say.
Dan not trying to derail your train here but posts and claims that your shipping back orders when theres a continued growing list
is a very false impression and if you truly dont owe anything to anybody why waste your time, money and "newly aquired inventory"
to help right someone elses wrongs??
This part has never made any sense not even to "save the brand name."
Ram Controls will ALWAYS be known for this.
Lets save the clock tower instead
yotsuya:
Out of curiousity, who's maintaining this public list? For example, I see ChadTower's on that list, but I also know that he has stated that he's squared things up with RAM, so that number should drop, right?
rikitiki:
The list I referred to as being current would be the private one thats being updated as of 6-20-2011
and NOT the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet was a starter to see what was at the time currently owed
and proably hasnt been updated.
The current Private list by Steph on KLOV is (42k) for legal proceedings and was posted to be current and updated.
However if Chad is on this private list he should contact Steph.
My understanding is This list is complied of victims who have been in contact directly with Steph
for legal comp and are still currently owed.
Care to coment Dan?
hatrick:
There is absolutely no logical explanation for this other than Dan is fronting for Dave to try and please the masses before the crap hits the fan with legal troubles. Think about it. Dave owes you money/product that you are pretty sure you will never see. In steps the hero Dan that promises SOMETHING to pay you back. Getting anything is better than nothing, so you accept alternate parts to cover what you are owed. You don't get what you paid for, but you get something, so Dave no longer has to worry about you coming after him. Mission accomplished.
50 Star Wars Yokes at about $250 each? That's $12,500. Lets be conservative and say they cost Ram $100 in parts & labor. That leaves a whopping $7500 for Dan to live off of, and recover his massive debt that Dave owes him? Dan would have to be the WORST business man in history (behind Dave) to accept this arrangement as payment for his debt. He would never make a dime off of this sinking ship. The only logical explanation is that Dan is fronting for Dave to cover Dave's ass.
Think about it people. Don't be so naive.
FrizzleFried:
--- Quote from: hatrick on July 21, 2011, 02:09:46 pm ---There is absolutely no logical explanation for this other than Dan is fronting for Dave to try and please the masses before the crap hits the fan with legal troubles. Think about it. Dave owes you money/product that you are pretty sure you will never see. In steps the hero Dan that promises SOMETHING to pay you back. Getting anything is better than nothing, so you accept alternate parts to cover what you are owed. You don't get what you paid for, but you get something, so Dave no longer has to worry about you coming after him. Mission accomplished.
50 Star Wars Yokes at about $250 each? That's $12,500. Lets be conservative and say they cost Ram $100 in parts & labor. That leaves a whopping $7500 for Dan to live off of, and recover his massive debt that Dave owes him? Dan would have to be the WORST business man in history (behind Dave) to accept this arrangement as payment for his debt. He would never make a dime off of this sinking ship. The only logical explanation is that Dan is fronting for Dave to cover Dave's ass.
Think about it people. Don't be so naive.
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