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| leapinlew:
--- Quote from: Alpha1 on June 24, 2011, 08:43:08 am --- --- Quote from: leapinlew on June 24, 2011, 08:25:21 am --- --- Quote from: Alpha1 on June 24, 2011, 08:18:16 am ---I don't know you Xiaou2, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt, but posting what you posted is just so far off the mark it is unreal. --- End quote --- Theres your problem right there.... --- End quote --- Go through KLOV, and you will see the Tube story yourself. You will also see the victims of the chip bulk deals, sw cockpit deals, parts that were never made but sold as shipping deals, the is my tracking number a real one deals, and all the other scams that affected us, the collectors. After to speaking to Dave on the phone multiple times, I honestly believe that he actually believes the lies he says. It's pretty sad, he's a classic conman. I almost feel sorry for him in a way. I challenge anyone that doesn't really know the full story and the 8 year train wreck to read the ENTIRE victims stories at KLOV and on many other places like the Vector List before posting an opinion. The classic opinion is the one above 'Dave just started making too many things and he fell behind and isn't it all so bad, I feel sorry for him really' when in reality it is a far far far different story. I may have 2 posts to my name on these forums (including this one) but i've been collecting for 14 years and am well known on all the other major collecting sites and I have personall history in dealings with Dave. I am not one that is making this up, I was affected, like many others were. Hell he owed his supposed friend/investor Dan 25 THOUSAND DOLLARS. Does that honest to God not ring alarm bells for people? Really? That's why people like Frizz put the lemmings picture on here. Heed the warnings and read the real stories by collectors that have been affected by this on KLOV. Oliver --- End quote --- I understand, and I think everyone understands that Dave did terrible things. Do you think that at this point, ordering from Ram is a bad idea? We have a few users here who have received long standing orders from Dan which is what would influence my decision to cautiously place an order with Ram. Not to mention a few users at KLOV seem to be getting their orders: http://forums.arcade-museum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=78 |
| ChadTower:
I was taken care of by Dan but my order was very small potatoes in the big picture. I am cautiously optimistic. I think for now we should be continuing to wait and see. I don't have a lot of hope for Dan's ability to make those large order customers whole but he probably can clear up all the small ones like myself. |
| Spunkmeyer:
--- Quote from: leapinlew on June 24, 2011, 09:02:13 am ---I understand, and I think everyone understands that Dave did terrible things. Do you think that at this point, ordering from Ram is a bad idea? We have a few users here who have received long standing orders from Dan which is what would influence my decision to cautiously place an order with Ram. Not to mention a few users at KLOV seem to be getting their orders: http://forums.arcade-museum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=78 --- End quote --- You know what BYOAC members should take a look at? This Google Docs spreadsheet that's been compiled over at KLOV of people who have been ripped off by RAM Controls. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0An_RLk7EK5WtdFVhbnJBMDBCbzBoamlQZldvRTQwYXc&hl=en&authkey=CPDFuqsL#gid=0 |
| Vigo:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on June 24, 2011, 10:47:28 am ---I am cautiously optimistic. I think for now we should be continuing to wait and see. I don't have a lot of hope for Dan's ability to make those large order customers whole but he probably can clear up all the small ones like myself. --- End quote --- My thoughts as well...filling some smaller orders is a nice first step, but there is major, major damage out there still. I think we should hear Dan out, but he has to deliver some solid plan. As far as the 'wait and see' bit. he deserves a chance to prove himself, but how long should Dan be given before being declared another con artist? Dan, what is your plan that you promised? If you don't have it ready yet, what time frame can everyone expect to hear your plan by? Your talk has been open and sincere, but without any solid facts or a real time frame. Everyone is still essentially left in the dark. I hope you see the problem here. |
| yotsuya:
--- Quote from: Spunkmeyer on June 24, 2011, 11:14:51 am --- You know what BYOAC members should take a look at? This Google Docs spreadsheet that's been compiled over at KLOV of people who have been ripped off by RAM Controls. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0An_RLk7EK5WtdFVhbnJBMDBCbzBoamlQZldvRTQwYXc&hl=en&authkey=CPDFuqsL#gid=0 --- End quote --- Is that going to be revised when people like Chad are squared away with Dan? |
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